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They REALLY need this dude to be either white or connected to white supremacy. But, dickheads, he is MEXICAN.
There is no “need”. He’s a dude who has Nazi and white supremacist beliefs. Sounds stupid, but it’s his beliefs. None of that matters.

What matters is you have a person of this personality type and beliefs who can freely enter stores and leave with guns.
 

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What matters is you have a person of this personality type and beliefs who can freely enter stores and leave with guns.
And how exactly would you fix that? Red flag laws? No thanks. I don’t want any government entity deciding if I need a gun or not. Who gets to make that decision and what are the parameters for me being put on that “list”? Screw that shit. They have already weaponized most of our federal law enforcement agencies. What do you think they would do with the ability to randomly ban someone from buying a gun? Fuck all of that.
 

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And how exactly would you fix that? Red flag laws? No thanks. I don’t want any government entity deciding if I need a gun or not. Who gets to make that decision and what are the parameters for me being put on that “list”? Screw that shit. They have already weaponized most of our federal law enforcement agencies. What do you think they would do with the ability to randomly ban someone from buying a gun? Fuck all of that.
Ya, fuck all that. Status quo is going so well, nothing to see here.
 

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Ya, fuck all that. Status quo is going so well, nothing to see here.
Then how would you fix it? It's an honest question. We gonna ban "personality types" and people with certain "beliefs" from buying a gun? Nah, man.
 

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Ya, fuck all that. Status quo is going so well, nothing to see here.
I mean I'm good with banning Nazi's from owning guns. But I have no idea how to actually enforce that. And before you ban anyone you sure as shit better have real due process where people you know, have a right to go to court before losing their rights.

And of course than you have the problem of if guns are everywhere, is it really that hard for someone banned from getting a gun who wants to commit a serious crime, from just getting a gun illegally?

Has it really worked that well at stopping convicted felons from possessing firearms?
 

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I mean I'm good with banning Nazi's from owning guns. But I have no idea how to actually enforce that. And before you ban anyone you sure as shit better have real due process where people you know, have a right to go to court before losing their rights.

And of course than you have the problem of if guns are everywhere, is it really that hard for someone banned from getting a gun who wants to commit a serious crime, from just getting a gun illegally?

Has it really worked that well at stopping convicted felons from possessing firearms?
Solid post. It comes down to either banning guns or not. But, you can't "red flag" someone you don't like or has an opposing political view. Because if certain people get control of the red flag tags, I can tell you who would lose their guns first.
 

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It always amazes me that most of these sick fucks have a history of posting extreme shit online where many people read the shit. You know the FBI has been flagged on it, yet they are rarely stopped before they carry these things out.

This isn’t 1970. There isn’t a single thing that happens in this country that the FBI doesn’t know about before it happens. With the surveillance capabilities they possess nowadays, the only logical reason I see for most of this shit not being thwarted is the ability to illegally surveil citizens is way more important than admitting they do it by stopping it.
 

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Then how would you fix it? It's an honest question. We gonna ban "personality types" and people with certain "beliefs" from buying a gun? Nah, man.
I mean, the easy answer is getting rid of guns.

Every other country in the world has “mentally ill people”, violent video games and movies, porn, Trans people. What other variables do you want to add? None of them come close to the amount of incidents we have.

Japan is a country of 125.7 million. They had 2 people killed by guns all of last year and 0 Mass shootings. Guess what the one thing they don’t allow their citizens to have that we do?
 

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I mean, the easy answer is getting rid of guns.

Every other country in the world has “mentally ill people”, violent video games and movies, porn, Trans people. What other variables do you want to add? None of them come close to the amount of incidents we have.

Japan is a country of 125.7 million. They had 2 people killed by guns all of last year and 0 Mass shootings. Guess what the one thing they don’t allow their citizens to have that we do?
What’s your grand plan for getting criminals to turn in their guns?
 

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I mean, the easy answer is getting rid of guns.

Every other country in the world has “mentally ill people”, violent video games and movies, porn, Trans people. What other variables do you want to add? None of them come close to the amount of incidents we have.

Japan is a country of 125.7 million. They had 2 people killed by guns all of last year and 0 Mass shootings. Guess what the one thing they don’t allow their citizens to have that we do?

And you think everyone would just give up their guns? What about the criminals?
 

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I mean, the easy answer is getting rid of guns.

Every other country in the world has “mentally ill people”, violent video games and movies, porn, Trans people. What other variables do you want to add? None of them come close to the amount of incidents we have.

Japan is a country of 125.7 million. They had 2 people killed by guns all of last year and 0 Mass shootings. Guess what the one thing they don’t allow their citizens to have that we do?
No, your move
 

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It’s laughable that some people think a law is magic.

Just get rid of guns, make it illegal to own them.

I’m pretty sure adults having sex with children is illegal, most drugs, drinking and driving, murder, theft, etc. All of that still goes on. Laws don’t prevent the act from taking place, it just defines who the criminal is and who the law abiding citizen is.

Criminals aren’t going to simply turn in their guns, they’re going to see the people that do as potential marks.
 

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I guess a law that would make owning certain firearms illegal would make most of us criminals by definition. Most people I know who own them, and I’m not saying I do(@fbi), but those people aren’t giving them up either.

Especially after watching the lawlessness that was allowed to unfold during the summer of 2020.
 

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Japan is a country of 125.7 million. They had 2 people killed by guns all of last year and 0 Mass shootings. Guess what the one thing they don’t allow their citizens to have that we do?
I mean their culture is slightly different than ours. What works in Japan wouldn't work in America. They have a stupid low crime rate there. You can make guns disappear and our culture isn't that.
 

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I guess a law that would make owning certain firearms illegal would make most of us criminals by definition. Most people I know who own them, and I’m not saying I do(@fbi), but those people aren’t giving them up either.

Especially after watching the lawlessness that was allowed to unfold during the summer of 2020.
I mean I don't care about guns for myself. I own a 12 gage given to me by my grandpa that has been passed down. I'd never give it up or turn it in but I also haven't done anything with it in ages. Why the hell should I give it up? Does me turning it in do any good for anyone?

I'm all for stopping gun violence. I hate it and I think it's awful. I just am not for doing things that aren't effective just for the sake of doing things.
 

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Just get rid of guns, make it illegal to own them.
I mean it works in Chicago. Guns are illegal there and they don't have any shootings at all.
 
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