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The media isn’t projecting deaths. Orgs like CDC and WHO are the ones crunching numbers, not your local news anchor.
Oh my. It’s one and the same when they report same.
 

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I heard from multiple places a 2 week lockdown is coming. I get being safe, but at what cost? What are you willing to give up?
I dont mind at all. My wife is immunocompromised and anything to keep these idiots from coming into contact with her is fine by me.
 

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I dont mind at all. My wife is immunocompromised and anything to keep these idiots from coming into contact with her is fine by me.
And, that's the thing. You have every right to stay home. It shouldn't be mandated.
 

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And, that's the thing. You have every right to stay home. It shouldn't be mandated.
I also dont mind keeping people home to curb the spread. The only way to do that is to force people to stay home because they wont on their own because they are stupid.
 

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I also dont mind keeping people home to curb the spread. The only way to do that is to force people to stay home because they wont on their own because they are stupid.
So, you would be okay taking away everyone's liberties because of the ones that are stupid and irresponsible? We don't disagree often , but we damn sure do here.
 

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You must’ve hated it when smoking indoors was banned.

I mean, you surely agree with mandates that happened during wartime. It’s not an issue of mandate-or-not, it’s more you don’t think this CV is dangerous enough to warrant mandates. How accurate is that?
My opinion have jack shit to do with this virus. It has to do with the slippery slope you step out onto when you start taking people's freedoms.
 

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So, you would be okay taking away everyone's liberties because of the ones that are stupid and irresponsible? We don't disagree often , but we damn sure do here.
If they weren't stupid then we wouldnt have to worry about it. I sure do want to curb the spread of the virus that can easily kill my wife. If that means people have to stay home then so be it.
 

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USA deaths the last three days:
Thursday - 57
Friday - 49
Thursday - 46
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As an aside, I wonder if we’ll show a decrease in non-CV deaths like auto-accidents and homicide
its a certainty I would imagine
 

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Well,

So is this good? The percentages accelerating or declining?
not good, if we stay at 35% daily growth rate I used in the spreadsheet, we will be at 7 million by April 20th

apply whichever fatality rate you believe is most accurate and the number of deaths is substantial
 

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You must’ve hated it when smoking indoors was banned.

I mean, you surely agree with mandates that happened during wartime. It’s not an issue of mandate-or-not, it’s more you don’t think this CV is dangerous enough to warrant mandates. How accurate is that?
I hate eating dinner in a smoking place but I hate laws banning it more. It's simple, you don't want smoke, don't eat there. No laws banning it where I live and yet most places don't allow smoking inside anymore. Amazing how the free market works.
 

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not good, if we stay at 35% daily growth rate I used in the spreadsheet, we will be at 7 million by April 20th

apply whichever fatality rate you believe is most accurate and the number of deaths is substantial
Does your spreadsheet account for this slowing down at some point? As test kits are more readily available the positive cases will go up but as you can see the deaths aren't going up. It sort of tells you that your positive tests are likely getting a bump due to more testing.

Similarly at some point as more people are exposed it will slow down because people who have already had the virus won't get sick again.
 

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I hate eating dinner in a smoking place but I hate laws banning it more. It's simple, you don't want smoke, don't eat there. No laws banning it where I live and yet most places don't allow smoking inside anymore. Amazing how the free market works.
I'm a big free market guy but when it comes to things like smoking where one single person smoking can ruin the air for everyone, then I am for restrictions in public places but I feel your concern and agree there always needs to be a a lot of pressure against easily instituting far reaching policies in times like these.

Temporary measures allowed with expiration dates that have a process for being extended seem reasonable, lets dont pass any major laws during times like this though
 

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Does your spreadsheet account for this slowing down at some point? As test kits are more readily available the positive cases will go up but as you can see the deaths aren't going up. It sort of tells you that your positive tests are likely getting a bump due to more testing.

Similarly at some point as more people are exposed it will slow down because people who have already had the virus won't get sick again.
No sir, it was just a very simple spreadsheet aimed at predicting the potential total number of people who have contracted the virus given a fixed growth rate over a 30 day period.

On that note, we can be certain the figures I posted are understated because, like you mentioned, testing is in its infancy so we currently do not know how many people are afflicted that haven't been tested and counted yet but we know they're out there.
 

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No sir, it was just a very simple spreadsheet aimed at predicting the potential total number of people who have contracted the virus given a fixed growth rate over a 30 day period.

On that note, we can be certain the figures I posted are understated because, like you mentioned, testing is in its infancy so we currently do not know how many people are afflicted that haven't been tested and counted yet but we know they're out there.
I think it's fair to say there are already people who have gotten the virus and recovered without even realizing it. Some people show no symptoms while others show mild enough symptoms that they think it's just allergies or a cold. Those people will never test positive but they will already be cleared from ever getting it either. So I think it's a little difficult to predict how it is progressing right now. It's probably been increasing at a higher rate than even your numbers realize but it's also why things will level out.
 

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it's also why things will level out.
certainly hope so and very soon, I'd prefer to avoid high levels of afflicted

H1N1 approached 61 million in this country so when its all said and done, 7 million might turn out to be a good number

time will tell.....
 
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