The Coronavirus Thread...

[Cotton]

I’d be worried, too.

Be proud of her, though. She must have a big heart, and she’s doing what she feels called to do.

I tried my damndest to talk her out of it. She is as hardheaded as I am, so it was all wasted breath.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Let's just crystallize the issue. How is it OK to lie and get things factually wrong when talking to the American people about shit this serious? Explain that. Because you gloss over that issue repeatedly. He's the President. The buck stops with him. Explain away the lying and the mistakes. Let's hear it. Come on.

Point out the lies, please. Not mistakes, but lies.

And of course he's said some things that have been factually wrong. This situation has exploded faster than anyone expected so *everyone* has said things that turned out to be factually wrong. Talk about me ignoring and glossing over things, in all these posts you've never explained all the Dem mistakes and "lies."

All presidents do tell lies from time to time, though, regardless of party. We all know that. "If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan." That was an actual lie because he knew damn well that wasn't true when he said it.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Sheik]

Point out the lies, please. Not mistakes, but lies.

And of course he's said some things that have been factually wrong. This situation has exploded faster than anyone expected so *everyone* has said things that turned out to be factually wrong. Talk about me ignoring and glossing over things, in all these posts you've never explained all the Dem mistakes and "lies."

All presidents do tell lies from time to time, though, regardless of party. We all know that. "If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan."

Let's just crystallize the issue. How is it OK to lie and get things factually wrong when talking to the American people about shit this serious? Explain that. Because you gloss over that issue repeatedly. He's the President. The buck stops with him. Explain away the lying and the mistakes. Let's hear it. Come on.

I don’t think he’s taking into account that fact that early information was watered down, so early direction from the administration was watered down. That equates to lying I guess.

In a perfect world, China would have let on about the severity and acted responsibly way earlier on. I think we’d be through this already if China would have been forthcoming from the onset.

It’s like your neighbor waiting to let you know your house is on fire until the damage is done, even though he started the fire.

And I’m sorry, but if Hillary Clinton has shown anything in the last 5-6 years, it’s extremely poor judgement, carelessness, and an inability to take any responsibility for anything.

 

[bbgun]

Trump wanted to quarantine the Northeast last week but Cuomo threw a fit and he backed off. There's only so much you can do if states are fighting you.

 

[lostxn]

In 'Big Adjustment,' Some European Countries Push For Residents To Wear Masks
April 1, 20201:35 PM ET
COLIN DWYER

A man wearing a face mask crosses the Charles Bridge in Prague on Tuesday. The Czech Republic is one of a handful of places throughout Europe now mandating that residents wear face masks when they leave their homes.
Michal Cizek/AFP via Getty Images
For weeks, when healthy Americans asked whether they should be wearing face masks in public to help stem the spread of the coronavirus, health authorities in the U.S. have answered with a definitive no. Now, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reviewing its policy, those recommendations may soon change — but in Central Europe, a handful of countries have already made that decision.
Austria, the Czech Republic and Slovakia have recently made it compulsory to wear some form of covering over their mouths and noses when entering certain public spaces. In this respect, they have more closely followed the lead of health authorities in Asian countries — such as China and South Korea, where masks have been strongly encouraged and even widely distributed — than their own neighbors in Europe so far.
"I am fully aware that masks are alien to our culture," Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said Monday, in explaining that supermarkets were expected to start handing out masks to shoppers on Wednesday. "This will require a big adjustment."
Many health authorities have argued that, given a widespread shortage of personal protective equipment, and given that there's no evidence that masks protect their wearer from infection, masks should be reserved only for medical professionals.
But a sea change has been noticeable recently in some official recommendations, as it becomes clear that people infected with the virus may spread it even if they are not showing symptoms. Thus, some form of facial covering — even if the person is presumed healthy and the mask is improvised — may still be helpful, at least in preventing unknowing sufferers from spreading the virus to others.
Those conclusions, however, are not universally embraced. And many of Austria's neighbors have resisted making this "adjustment" on a nationwide scale.

Slovakian Prime Minister Igor Matovic, while wearing a face mask, takes the oath during the inaugural session of the new Parliament in Bratislava last month.
Michal Svítok/AP

Jena, a city in eastern Germany, announced this week that within several days it will be compulsory to wear a mask in supermarkets and on public transit — but the German government as a whole has issued no such recommendation. Speaking anecdotally, NPR's Rob Schmitz, who is based in Berlin, reports he was the only shopper he saw on a recent visit to the supermarket wearing a mask.
"Everyone stared at me," he observed, referring to a trip Saturday, "and some of them even gave me angry looks."

As of Wednesday afternoon, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control continued to discourage the use of face masks, noting that "it is possible that the use of face masks may even increase the risk of infection due to a false sense of security and increased contact between hands, mouth and eyes while wearing them."

That has not stopped Slovakia, along with several of its neighbors, from proceeding with its own push for residents to wear them. In fact, when President Zuzana Čaputová swore in the country's new governing coalition last month, each new member of the country's highest echelon of power — including new Prime Minister Igor Matovic — pledged their oath of office through a mask.
And the Czech Prime Minister, Andrej Babiš, would like to see the U.S. follow their example. On Sunday, he encouraged President Trump to wear a simple cloth mask and "try tackling virus the Czech way."

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[lostxn]

Point out the lies, please. Not mistakes, but lies.

And of course he's said some things that have been factually wrong. This situation has exploded faster than anyone expected so *everyone* has said things that turned out to be factually wrong. Talk about me ignoring and glossing over things, in all these posts you've never explained all the Dem mistakes and "lies."

All presidents do tell lies from time to time, though, regardless of party. We all know that. "If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan." That was an actual lie because he knew damn well that wasn't true when he said it.

I literally just posted an article from Politifact with numerous lies. Not to mention, getting things consistently wrong ISN'T OK.

I'm sorry, you're just not being intellectually honest so there's no point.

 

[Cotton]

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I'm not going to say I told you so, but...

 

[jsmith6919]

I literally just posted an article from Politifact with numerous lies. Not to mention, getting things consistently wrong ISN'T OK.

I'm sorry, you're just not being intellectually honest so there's no point.

You want to talk about intellectual honesty while using politifact

 

[lostxn]

OMG Trump told a lie!!!! Must impeach now!! Grrr!!
Hey guyz did you know Benghazi was caused by a youtube video?

You guys are cute. Sorry I said bad things about the Precious. He's doing a terrific job. Stellar.

 

[lostxn]

You want to talk about intellectual honesty while using politifact

Yeah, guy who posts random shit from Twiitter. I'll put Politifact up against your random Twitter bullshit. You literally distrust any source that doesn't comport with your worldview. Anything that is anti-Left is automatically to be believed. One of the reasons I don't respond to most of your posts is that I would have to do a ton of research to even see if it's even remotely right.

 

[jsmith6919]

Yeah, guy who posts random shit from Twiitter. I'll put Politifact up against your random Twitter bullshit. You literally distrust any source that doesn't comport with your worldview. Anything that is anti-Left is automatically to be believed. One of the reasons I don't respond to most of your posts is that I would have to do a ton of research to even see if it's even remotely right.

Politifact is as notorious as snopes for twisting language so they can say "true but". And literally every post of your is anti-right twitter bullshit, ffs you still believe in Hillary and Susan friggin Rice

 

[jsmith6919]

Yeah, guy who posts random shit from Twiitter.

Show just one thing from twitter I've posted that's false

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm sorry, you're just not being intellectually honest so there's no point.

You literally distrust any source that doesn't comport with your worldview. Anything that is anti-Left is automatically to be believed.

Physician, heal thyself...

 

[lostxn]

Show just one thing from twitter I've posted that's false

Here's a good example. This is just hateful and horrible right wing propaganda. NYC is a fucking disaster area where we are sending a 2,000 bed medical ship to assist. Texas's hotspot is Dallas which is like 43rd in the country in COVID deaths. Our population density is nothing compared to the east and west coasts. So you want to pretend Texas is better because of their politics? That is horseshit.

I give Clay Jenkins all the credit in the world for shutting down Dallas County when he did. Abbott followed suit eventually. I think Texas is not going to see the same horrible conditions as WA or CA or certainly NY. I'm hoping at least. But the conditions were set up for NYC to fail. But yes, there were some bad decisions by De Blasio and company that they will be held to account for.

 

[jsmith6919]

Here's a good example. This is just hateful and horrible right wing propaganda. NYC is a fucking disaster area where we are sending a 2,000 bed medical ship to assist. Texas's hotspot is Dallas which is like 43rd in the country in COVID deaths. Our population density is nothing compared to the east and west coasts. So you want to pretend Texas is better because of their politics? That is horseshit.

I give Clay Jenkins all the credit in the world for shutting down Dallas County when he did. Abbott followed suit eventually. I think Texas is not going to see the same horrible conditions as WA or CA or certainly NY. I'm hoping at least. But the conditions were set up for NYC to fail. But yes, there were some bad decisions by De Blasio and company that they will be held to account for.

You don't get the point of that tweet at all, it's showing NY wants more govt control of the supply chains while Texas removes regulations to let the free market work itself out

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[jsmith6919]