The Coronavirus Thread...

[boozeman]

The mayor of Lubbock issued a stay at home order last night. Looks like bare minimum I'm working from home for at least 2 more weeks. My family may murder each other before this is over.

Get ready for the bizarre shut-in behavior.

After a week or two, my wife and children were almost unrecognizable.

They were all doing weird out of character stuff.

 

[boozeman]

God, I hope you're wrong.

April is going to be hell month. Just watch.

 

[boozeman]

‘’Things will bounce back and by the time Summer is over, it will probably be just something to talk about. All this will fade into the political world of the next Presidential election maneuvering.

Why are you quoting this nonsense? Do you actually believe it?

This is when we need them the least, tbh.

The media won't be around to jab with Trump every day. But if you don't think the media is important?

Yes, I know it sucks and there is a partisan war waged every day that way. But the idea is to figure it out through your own filter. You do that every day anyways.

If information does not come from media, what will you depend on?

Dipshits on Facebook?

 

[L.T. Fan]

Why are you quoting this nonsense? Do you actually believe it?

The media won't be around to jab with Trump every day. But if you don't think the media is important?

Yes, I know it sucks and there is a partisan war waged every day that way. But the idea is to figure it out through your own filter. You do that every day anyways.

If information does not come from media, what will you depend on?

Dipshits on Facebook?

Yes I do. It may not be fully restored but it will be back in full swing as to the daily routines and the panic buying will be leveled. The stock market money hasn’t disappeared it just changed pockets and will make its way back into the market. The panic stimulus checks will have begun to be part of the spending and gasoline prices will slip back up as people start traveling, etc. Do you have a forecast?

Edit. The employment area will have some kinks in it but most of the unemployment filings will be underway and hiring will have begun.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[jsmith6919]

I've worn the same underwear for 1.5 weeks now. Well, when I've worn one.

 

[Sheik]

I seem to remember some sound advice, I don’t remember where I read it,

Jump in the shower and clean off that way. Waffle stomp that crap that won’t go down the drain on its own.

 

[Sheik]

@pdom

Who wears underwear in 2020? I didn’t know that was still a thing.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Sheik]

Did that once and cracked the plastic drain filter. Now I worry about the 2% chance a snake climbing up and kissing me in the reflection.

I did it before, too.

But I don’t have a plastic drain, bro. What do you live in? A travel trailer?

 

[yimyammer]

Ah...blessed Utopia, where "truth" is defined by bureaucrats

 

[Sheik]

I wonder which country wins the race for a vaccination. More importantly, if not the United States, how much will we be charged?

Hopefully it’s us so we can sell it and pay off the national debt.

 

[lostxn]

I still want to know who is dying from this shit.

Are they people who are in bad health to begin with, or is it taking perfectly otherwise healthy people and killing them?

Anyone know?

Yes people who are old or sick are more likely to die. However, young, healthy people are needing to be hospitalized for this about 15-20% of the time. Tony Boselli got admitted to the ICU for coronavirus and aside from orthopedic issues, I suspect he's pretty healthy. There was a baby in Illinois and an 18 year old in LA who died of this. But these are outliers. Again, Corona parties are a bad idea when it gives you a 15-20% chance to end up in the hospital.

We don't really know why some otherwise healthy people are ending up on vents.

 

[lostxn]

Yes people who are old or sick are more likely to die. However, young, healthy people are needing to be hospitalized for this about 15-20% of the time. Tony Boselli got admitted to the ICU for coronavirus and aside from orthopedic issues, I suspect he's pretty healthy. There was a baby in Illinois and an 18 year old in LA who died of this. But these are outliers. Again, Corona parties are a bad idea when it gives you a 15-20% chance to end up in the hospital.

We don't really know why some otherwise healthy people are ending up on vents.

How Does the Coronavirus Behave Inside a Patient?

We’ve counted the viral spread across peoples; now we need to count it within people.

www.newyorker.com

Well let me revise this. I just read a very good article sent by a colleague. It seems the dose of the virus you get at the outset can have a big effect on how sick you get. For instance, doctors are getting sicker than hell because when they intubate pts the pt aerosolizes the virus right in the doctor's face. This can give you a near lethal dose of the virus right in your lungs if you aren't wearing appropriate gear.

I think similarly, if you are on a crowded subway car with the dumbass next to you coughing up a lung right on your shoulder you might be in serious trouble. However, if you maybe touch a dirty doorknob and then pick your nose you might get a small dose in your nose and end up with mild symptoms. This is all about minute particles moving through your relatively massive body and how many particles are able to find purchase, are able to replicate and where. Incredibly difficult stuff to predict for any one encounter but you can make some general predictions about the kinds of interactions that would be problematic.

Again, this is a theory but I subscribe to it.

The other thing is that your innate immune system is more important than your acquired immune system (B and T cells) with this disease. Young people have better innate immune systems but weaker acquired immune systems (at least theoretically) since they haven't seen as many pathogens. Since it's a new bug, we're all naive. People with lung disease, people with diabetes, immunocompromised people, older people are all gonna fair worse. But we knew that.

Now if all this seems a little heady, here's one pearl for those of you guys who made it this far:

NYC declares war on ‘rim jobs’ in graphic health department memo

NYC's Department of Health is poo-pooing rim jobs.

nypost.com

 

[lostxn]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/30/11-100000-what-went-wrong-with-coronavirus-testing-us/

 

[L.T. Fan]

It

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/30/11-100000-what-went-wrong-with-coronavirus-testing-us/

Makes me wonder who was advising the President during the early part of the year about these matters

 

[Genghis Khan]

Austere Virus Scholar

 

[boozeman]

Wait...Corona parties are a thing? Who says this is like the chicken pox?

 

[Cotton]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Well let me revise this. I just read a very good article sent by a colleague. It seems the dose of the virus you get at the outset can have a big effect on how sick you get. For instance, doctors are getting sicker than hell because when they intubate pts the pt aerosolizes the virus right in the doctor's face. This can give you a near lethal dose of the virus right in your lungs if you aren't wearing appropriate gear.

I think similarly, if you are on a crowded subway car with the dumbass next to you coughing up a lung right on your shoulder you might be in serious trouble. However, if you maybe touch a dirty doorknob and then pick your nose you might get a small dose in your nose and end up with mild symptoms.

I read this the other day and my thought was, isn't this kind of obvious? Why is this different from other pathogens we're exposed to? If I'm hiking and drink some river water that has a tiny amount of nasty bacteria, I'll probably be fine. If there happens to be a massive dose in that water, I'm going to be sick as hell.

Just seems like common sense to me that if you're infected with a small amount of virus, your immune system is more likely to be able to take care of it before it can replicate into a large amount. But if you get a huge dose at the start and replicates from there, there will quickly be more than your immune system can handle. Am I missing something here?