The Coronavirus Thread...
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Angrymesscan
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It’s actually a combo, not just ivermectin. They had me on three different drugs, But what you should definitely do is get an oxymeter and if it drops below 90% rush to the hospital.
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yup. I had the Chiiiina virus last summer.
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The Covid thing (propaganda) is so bogus. The panic is about the all new cases but here’s a little hint. There will always be new cases because Covid is a new virus. You don’t eradicate viruses you vaccinate against them to improve your chances of dealing with them. To report only new cases is a tool to keep the public in a state of hysteria.
Apparently the masses do not know that viruses are around by the billions and all the time. Trying to shield yourself by initiating past practices doesn’t become a solution for shielding yourself against anything. Folks like to talk bout the science approach well guess what, the real science approach is having good hygiene practices and using preventive measures against all viruses and bacteria.
Another thing is not to buy into the control strategies being promulgated by government officials. Using new cases alone without relating information such as mortality percentages as well as recovery chances in various age groups etc is nothing more than simply terrorizing the masses for control purposes.
Covid came with a program already tailored to indoctrinate the masses on the death and doom of the virus and was used as a political tool to confuse the voters of the last Presidential election. Step 2 was then initiated to take control of leading the masses on how to deal with it.
Currently the program is now in a state of how to regain control of making people do what they mandate. It’s all so predictable yet I have friends who are now so terrified again they nearly tremble and this after they took the vaccination which was accompanied with a message of now you are okay.
All this after hearing that now there are new cases being reported in every quarter of the country and the world. Really now why wouldn’t there be new cases for a new virus? Yet intelligent people Quake over new cases being reported and continue blindly following the pied piper.
Apparently the masses do not know that viruses are around by the billions and all the time. Trying to shield yourself by initiating past practices doesn’t become a solution for shielding yourself against anything. Folks like to talk bout the science approach well guess what, the real science approach is having good hygiene practices and using preventive measures against all viruses and bacteria.
Another thing is not to buy into the control strategies being promulgated by government officials. Using new cases alone without relating information such as mortality percentages as well as recovery chances in various age groups etc is nothing more than simply terrorizing the masses for control purposes.
Covid came with a program already tailored to indoctrinate the masses on the death and doom of the virus and was used as a political tool to confuse the voters of the last Presidential election. Step 2 was then initiated to take control of leading the masses on how to deal with it.
Currently the program is now in a state of how to regain control of making people do what they mandate. It’s all so predictable yet I have friends who are now so terrified again they nearly tremble and this after they took the vaccination which was accompanied with a message of now you are okay.
All this after hearing that now there are new cases being reported in every quarter of the country and the world. Really now why wouldn’t there be new cases for a new virus? Yet intelligent people Quake over new cases being reported and continue blindly following the pied piper.
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Dead on, my friend.
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Amen, LT. People really need to learn to search alternative sources of data on the internet rather than swallowing whole whatever BS their favorite biased media is putting out.
I guess I'm shocked that we've learned so much about this virus, but a lot of people are freaking out like it's March 2020. Of course that's where the variant comes in -- they can act like it's even worse than before when in fact it's not as severe. Viruses always mutate to become more transmissible and less lethal and guess what, that's what's happening now.
And then there's the simple fact of people who can't seem to accept that all of life has some risk. Seems obvious but I guess people actually think life should be perfect and if it isn't, someone must be blamed. This isn't a perfect world and it never will be. Might as well accept it.
I guess I'm shocked that we've learned so much about this virus, but a lot of people are freaking out like it's March 2020. Of course that's where the variant comes in -- they can act like it's even worse than before when in fact it's not as severe. Viruses always mutate to become more transmissible and less lethal and guess what, that's what's happening now.
And then there's the simple fact of people who can't seem to accept that all of life has some risk. Seems obvious but I guess people actually think life should be perfect and if it isn't, someone must be blamed. This isn't a perfect world and it never will be. Might as well accept it.
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Weak people like someone to protect them. These people still wearing masks still think the feds are protecting them. They will follow blindly no matter what. It's absolutely incredible to me.
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At some point (ahem, now) life has to go on.
None of these so-called public health steps have had a positive effect on the spread of this virus. Not to mention most of the people that are still vulnerable to infection at this point seem to be young, healthy people, hence the reason the daily deaths are so low at this point. Most likely it will infect most of the remaining people who lack immunity and we'll be closer to herd immunity than ever.
Re-infections at this point seem very rare, and mild at most in those rare cases.
So the hysterical response to the variant is ridiculous.
None of these so-called public health steps have had a positive effect on the spread of this virus. Not to mention most of the people that are still vulnerable to infection at this point seem to be young, healthy people, hence the reason the daily deaths are so low at this point. Most likely it will infect most of the remaining people who lack immunity and we'll be closer to herd immunity than ever.
Re-infections at this point seem very rare, and mild at most in those rare cases.
So the hysterical response to the variant is ridiculous.
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Damn good thread.
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link: Could poop transplants help treat COVID-19?
Could poop transplants help treat COVID-19?
By Yasemin Saplakoglu - Staff Writer 18 days ago
Poop transplants may have helped two patients with risk factors avoid severe COVID-19, a new case report suggests.
An illustration of clostridioides difficile bacteria. (Image credit: Jennifer Oosthuizen/SCIENCE PHOTO LIBRARY via Getty Images)
Poop transplants may have helped two patients with risk factors avoid severe COVID-19, a new case report suggests. But the study was only based on two patients and so the improvement could have occurred by chance or as a result of other treatments.
The two patients were recently hospitalized in Poland with a bacterial infection and were given fecal transplants as a treatment. Both patients later tested positive for COVID-19, but neither developed severe disease despite having underlying conditions. "One possible explanation" is that the poop transplant, which is given to boost the immune response, may have prevented the patients from becoming very sick, the authors wrote in the study.
The procedure, called fecal microbiota transplantation (FMT), involves transplanting the poop of a healthy person into the gut of a patient who has an intestinal condition, such as an infection with the bacterium Clostridium difficile (also called Clostridioides difficile or abbreviated as C. diff), Live Science previously reported. This "healthy" poop is thought to have a mix of healthy bacteria that can help the body fight off the harmful pathogens that are causing issues such as diarrhea or irritable bowel syndrome.
Related: Quick guide: COVID-19 vaccines in use and how they work
Poop transplants have been used to help boost the effects of immunotherapy for cancer patients, Live Science previously reported. This is not the first time that fecal transplants have been proposed or administered without issue in patients with both a bacterial infection and COVID-19, but scientists don't know whether transplants can treat or reduce the severity of COVID-19.
Both patients in this case study went to the hospital for a bacterial infection and didn't develop symptoms of COVID-19 until they had already been admitted and began the fecal transplant treatment for the bacterial infection.
The first patient in the case study was an 80-year-old man who was first treated at the hospital for pneumonia and sepsis, or blood poisoning. But the man also happened to be infected with C. diff, for which he underwent FMT.
After he begun FMT, he also tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) and started treatment on convalescent plasma (blood that contains antibodies taken from recovered COVID-19 patients) and an antiviral medication known as remdesivir. Remdesivir can lead to improvements after an average of 10 days, and the benefits of convalescent plasma are "limited," the authors wrote.
But surprisingly, two days after he was given poop transplants, his symptoms of COVID-19 cleared up and his pneumonia did not get worse.
The second patient was a 19-year-old man who had a type of inflammatory bowel disease known as ulcerative colitis and was being treated with drugs that suppressed the immune system. He was admitted to the hospital after a recurrent infection with C. difficile. He was given a poop transplant and antibiotics to treat the bacterial infection.
About 15 hours later, he developed a fever and tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. Even though he was immunocompromised and wasn't given any treatment for COVID-19, he only developed mild symptoms.
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"Our main conclusion from these cases is that FMT appears safe and of comparable efficacy in treating recurrent [Clostridioides difficile infection] in patients with coexisting COVID-19," the authors wrote. "A further more speculative question is as to whether FMT may impact the clinical course of COVID-19."
In other words, poop transplants may have helped to mitigate severe disease in these patients, both of whom had risk factors for developing severe COVID-19. Still, even people with risk factors usually don't develop severe COVID-19, so both these patients might have recovered by chance.
Still, this was a case report of only two patients, and it's difficult to tease apart the effects of the various treatments. The researchers are now planning to test the effects of poop transplants on COVID-19 patients in a formal clinical trial.
The findings were published July 6 in the journal Gut.
Originally published on Live Science.
Could poop transplants help treat COVID-19?
By Yasemin Saplakoglu - Staff Writer 18 days ago
Poop transplants may have helped two patients with risk factors avoid severe COVID-19, a new case report suggests.
An illustration of clostridioides difficile bacteria. (Image credit: Jennifer Oosthuizen/SCIENCE PHOTO LIBRARY via Getty Images)
Poop transplants may have helped two patients with risk factors avoid severe COVID-19, a new case report suggests. But the study was only based on two patients and so the improvement could have occurred by chance or as a result of other treatments.
The two patients were recently hospitalized in Poland with a bacterial infection and were given fecal transplants as a treatment. Both patients later tested positive for COVID-19, but neither developed severe disease despite having underlying conditions. "One possible explanation" is that the poop transplant, which is given to boost the immune response, may have prevented the patients from becoming very sick, the authors wrote in the study.
The procedure, called fecal microbiota transplantation (FMT), involves transplanting the poop of a healthy person into the gut of a patient who has an intestinal condition, such as an infection with the bacterium Clostridium difficile (also called Clostridioides difficile or abbreviated as C. diff), Live Science previously reported. This "healthy" poop is thought to have a mix of healthy bacteria that can help the body fight off the harmful pathogens that are causing issues such as diarrhea or irritable bowel syndrome.
Related: Quick guide: COVID-19 vaccines in use and how they work
Poop transplants have been used to help boost the effects of immunotherapy for cancer patients, Live Science previously reported. This is not the first time that fecal transplants have been proposed or administered without issue in patients with both a bacterial infection and COVID-19, but scientists don't know whether transplants can treat or reduce the severity of COVID-19.
Both patients in this case study went to the hospital for a bacterial infection and didn't develop symptoms of COVID-19 until they had already been admitted and began the fecal transplant treatment for the bacterial infection.
The first patient in the case study was an 80-year-old man who was first treated at the hospital for pneumonia and sepsis, or blood poisoning. But the man also happened to be infected with C. diff, for which he underwent FMT.
After he begun FMT, he also tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) and started treatment on convalescent plasma (blood that contains antibodies taken from recovered COVID-19 patients) and an antiviral medication known as remdesivir. Remdesivir can lead to improvements after an average of 10 days, and the benefits of convalescent plasma are "limited," the authors wrote.
But surprisingly, two days after he was given poop transplants, his symptoms of COVID-19 cleared up and his pneumonia did not get worse.
The second patient was a 19-year-old man who had a type of inflammatory bowel disease known as ulcerative colitis and was being treated with drugs that suppressed the immune system. He was admitted to the hospital after a recurrent infection with C. difficile. He was given a poop transplant and antibiotics to treat the bacterial infection.
About 15 hours later, he developed a fever and tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. Even though he was immunocompromised and wasn't given any treatment for COVID-19, he only developed mild symptoms.
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"Our main conclusion from these cases is that FMT appears safe and of comparable efficacy in treating recurrent [Clostridioides difficile infection] in patients with coexisting COVID-19," the authors wrote. "A further more speculative question is as to whether FMT may impact the clinical course of COVID-19."
In other words, poop transplants may have helped to mitigate severe disease in these patients, both of whom had risk factors for developing severe COVID-19. Still, even people with risk factors usually don't develop severe COVID-19, so both these patients might have recovered by chance.
Still, this was a case report of only two patients, and it's difficult to tease apart the effects of the various treatments. The researchers are now planning to test the effects of poop transplants on COVID-19 patients in a formal clinical trial.
The findings were published July 6 in the journal Gut.
Originally published on Live Science.
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Yep, it began with the blame to Trump for the death rates and various state governments have had their agendas for getting funding for their near bankrupt status while Federal target is to keep the wraps on the Executive branch incompetency. It’s all woven together to hide the real program of keeping voter laws loose while funneling financial resources to states that are at the edge of bankruptcy.