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It got 6 props. What more do you want, greedy ass?
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At the time there were none which was a travesty.
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Trump says he and North Korea's Kim Jong Un 'fell in love.' Here's how the GOP responded.
Trump says he and North Korea's Kim Jong Un 'fell in love.' Here's how the GOP responded.
Unlike Trump, the GOP has been quite clear about how it feels about Kim Jong Un's nuclear ambitions — that is, until recently.
Nothing illustrates the hypocrisy of the Republican Party during the era of Donald Trump more than their willingness to give the president a complete pass on his bizarre statements about North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.
Speaking at a rally on Saturday night in West Virginia, Trump revealed that he had “fell in love” with the very man Republicans labeled a “nut job” and a “lunatic” just a few years ago. “I was really being tough and so was he. And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love, ok? No really. He wrote me beautiful letters. And they’re great letters. And then we fell in love.”
It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to visualize how Republicans would have reacted if former President Barack Obama had said something similar. Of course, Trump is known for conflicting if not blatantly untrue statements, but there's something especially concerning about this kind of inconsistency when nuclear weapons are involved. And unlike Trump, the GOP has been quite clear about how it feels about Kim Jong Un's nuclear ambitions — that is, until recently.
In December of 2014, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, called for North Korea to be put “back on the state-sponsored terror list,” and said that the United States should “try to infiltrate their media and get the message out about who exactly runs their country and that there’s a better way. I’d go all in in trying to expose this regime to the North Korean people for the nut jobs they are.”
In January of 2016, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., attacked Obama saying, “I have been warning throughout this campaign that North Korea is run by a lunatic who has been expanding his nuclear arsenal while President Obama stood idly by… we need new leadership that will stand up to people like Kim Jong-un and ensure our country has the capabilities necessary to keep America safe.”
In February of 2016, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, sent a letter to Obama to “express deep concern” regarding Obama's “policy of ‘strategic patience’ toward the Democratic People’s Republican of Korea (DPRK).”
In September of 2016, House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., called on Obama to “immediately make use of the sanctions authorities Congress gave him earlier this year and he should join me in urging China, as Pyongyang’s chief sponsor, to fully enforce the international sanctions on the Kim regime.”
And yet, while Republicans were all too willing to attack Obama’s approach to dealing with North Korea, they have been predictably silent as Trump speaks lovingly — literally — about the North Korean leader.
If Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., was being sincere in calling for a “firm response” to the “tyrannical Kim regime” in 2016, what must be going through the good senator’s head when the president of the United States and commander-in-chief talks about his eloquent new pen pal? We may never know — but we can guess.
So far, the main strategy appears to be feigning ignorance. In the hours following Trump’s declaration of love, FoxNews.com’s homepage featured a total of zero headlines devoted to the stunning statement. The Drudge Report had no mention of “North Korea” or “love.”
And what does North Korea think about this modern romance? Earlier on the same day, North Korea’s foreign minister said that there was “no way we will denuclearize” without concessions from the United States, pointing out that “we have far more reasons to distrust the United States.”
This is hardly surprising, since in early August national security advisor John Bolton conceded that North Korea had “not taken the steps we feel are necessary to denuclearize.” Bolton even went so far as to say that “we’re going to continue to apply maximum pressure to North Korea until they denuclearize.”
Nobody seems to be on the same page here — not Trump, not Trump's national security team, not Republican lawmakers and certainly not the North Koreans. I guess exchanging love letters is what passes for “maximum pressure” in the Trump administration.
Trump says he and North Korea's Kim Jong Un 'fell in love.' Here's how the GOP responded.
Unlike Trump, the GOP has been quite clear about how it feels about Kim Jong Un's nuclear ambitions — that is, until recently.
Nothing illustrates the hypocrisy of the Republican Party during the era of Donald Trump more than their willingness to give the president a complete pass on his bizarre statements about North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.
Speaking at a rally on Saturday night in West Virginia, Trump revealed that he had “fell in love” with the very man Republicans labeled a “nut job” and a “lunatic” just a few years ago. “I was really being tough and so was he. And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love, ok? No really. He wrote me beautiful letters. And they’re great letters. And then we fell in love.”
It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to visualize how Republicans would have reacted if former President Barack Obama had said something similar. Of course, Trump is known for conflicting if not blatantly untrue statements, but there's something especially concerning about this kind of inconsistency when nuclear weapons are involved. And unlike Trump, the GOP has been quite clear about how it feels about Kim Jong Un's nuclear ambitions — that is, until recently.
In December of 2014, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, called for North Korea to be put “back on the state-sponsored terror list,” and said that the United States should “try to infiltrate their media and get the message out about who exactly runs their country and that there’s a better way. I’d go all in in trying to expose this regime to the North Korean people for the nut jobs they are.”
In January of 2016, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., attacked Obama saying, “I have been warning throughout this campaign that North Korea is run by a lunatic who has been expanding his nuclear arsenal while President Obama stood idly by… we need new leadership that will stand up to people like Kim Jong-un and ensure our country has the capabilities necessary to keep America safe.”
In February of 2016, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, sent a letter to Obama to “express deep concern” regarding Obama's “policy of ‘strategic patience’ toward the Democratic People’s Republican of Korea (DPRK).”
In September of 2016, House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., called on Obama to “immediately make use of the sanctions authorities Congress gave him earlier this year and he should join me in urging China, as Pyongyang’s chief sponsor, to fully enforce the international sanctions on the Kim regime.”
And yet, while Republicans were all too willing to attack Obama’s approach to dealing with North Korea, they have been predictably silent as Trump speaks lovingly — literally — about the North Korean leader.
If Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., was being sincere in calling for a “firm response” to the “tyrannical Kim regime” in 2016, what must be going through the good senator’s head when the president of the United States and commander-in-chief talks about his eloquent new pen pal? We may never know — but we can guess.
So far, the main strategy appears to be feigning ignorance. In the hours following Trump’s declaration of love, FoxNews.com’s homepage featured a total of zero headlines devoted to the stunning statement. The Drudge Report had no mention of “North Korea” or “love.”
And what does North Korea think about this modern romance? Earlier on the same day, North Korea’s foreign minister said that there was “no way we will denuclearize” without concessions from the United States, pointing out that “we have far more reasons to distrust the United States.”
This is hardly surprising, since in early August national security advisor John Bolton conceded that North Korea had “not taken the steps we feel are necessary to denuclearize.” Bolton even went so far as to say that “we’re going to continue to apply maximum pressure to North Korea until they denuclearize.”
Nobody seems to be on the same page here — not Trump, not Trump's national security team, not Republican lawmakers and certainly not the North Koreans. I guess exchanging love letters is what passes for “maximum pressure” in the Trump administration.
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Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Ho Hum.
. Didn’t see anything about fraud or illegal transactions in thearticle. Wealthy people spend a great deal of time minimizing tax liabilities. The congress approves because they write the laws governing them via the IRS guidelines. Try again.
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You know how I know they don’t have shit on Kavanaugh? They are back to taxes.
That, and now Kavanaugh is disqualified in their minds because he told them what pieces of shit they are for running with this Ford bullshit.
Sane democrats won’t like it either. Believe it or not, there are a shit ton of sane minded democrats still left out there. The democrat party isn’t made up of little white fags running around with skinny jeans and fidget spinners.
That, and now Kavanaugh is disqualified in their minds because he told them what pieces of shit they are for running with this Ford bullshit.
Sane democrats won’t like it either. Believe it or not, there are a shit ton of sane minded democrats still left out there. The democrat party isn’t made up of little white fags running around with skinny jeans and fidget spinners.
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THERE COULD BE A FINANCIAL CRASH BEFORE END OF TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, EXPERTS SAY, CITING LOOMING DEBTS
THERE COULD BE A FINANCIAL CRASH BEFORE END OF TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, EXPERTS SAY, CITING LOOMING DEBTS
Financial experts noted several ominous economic indicators, including skyrocketing student loans and U.S. household debts, that could predict a crash "worse than the Great Depression," according to a report in the New York Post.
Goldman Sachs predicted that this year's U.S. fiscal outlook would be "not good," and that U.S. household debt had been increasing since the 2008 housing crisis led to American taxpayers bailing out the big banks.
In 2018, experts said, a $247 trillion global debt will be the greatest cause of the next cataclysmic financial crash. Additionally, low wages and the U.S. national debt's steady rise are expected to drag down the economy.
Economists downplayed recent positive indicators such as low unemployment and soaring business confidence, reiterating they wouldn't last through Trump's first term. At least one expert predicted that recent slides in housing and auto sales were the first step toward a U.S. recession.
Murray Gunn, chief of global research at Elliott Wave International, told the Post, "We think the major economies are on the cusp of turning into the worst recessions we have seen in 10 years. Should the [U.S.] economy start to shrink, and our analysis suggests that it will, the high nominal levels of debt will instantly become a very big issue."
Experts cautioned that several economic markers had gotten much worse over the past decade, especially in regard to borrowed money. The U.S. household debt of $13.3 trillion is now far worse than it was during its 2008 peak, due primarily to mortgage lending.
Outstanding student loan debts have simultaneously increased from $611 billion of unpaid debt in 2008 to more than $1.5 trillion today. Automobile loans have far exceeded their 2008 peaks, sitting at about $1.25 trillion today, and unpaid credit card balances are just as high as the years leading up to the Great Recession.
Central bankers have also more than doubled global debt as they flooded national economies with cheap and easy money. In 2008, global debt sat at $177 trillion, in comparison to $247 trillion today.
“We won’t be able to call it a recession, it’s going to be worse than the Great Depression,” economic commentator Peter Schiff told the Post. “The U.S. economy is in so much worse shape than it was a decade ago.”
A widespread drop in spending and income means that default rates will likely worsen in coming years. Schiff also blamed the U.S. Federal Reserve and other central banks in part for the impending crisis.
“I think we are going to have a dollar crisis—you think the Turkish lira looks bad now, wait till you see when the dollar is imploding and we have a sovereign debt crisis in the U.S.,” Schiff told the Post. “The U.S. government is going to be given a choice between defaulting on the debt, or else massive runaway inflation.”
THERE COULD BE A FINANCIAL CRASH BEFORE END OF TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, EXPERTS SAY, CITING LOOMING DEBTS
Financial experts noted several ominous economic indicators, including skyrocketing student loans and U.S. household debts, that could predict a crash "worse than the Great Depression," according to a report in the New York Post.
Goldman Sachs predicted that this year's U.S. fiscal outlook would be "not good," and that U.S. household debt had been increasing since the 2008 housing crisis led to American taxpayers bailing out the big banks.
In 2018, experts said, a $247 trillion global debt will be the greatest cause of the next cataclysmic financial crash. Additionally, low wages and the U.S. national debt's steady rise are expected to drag down the economy.
Economists downplayed recent positive indicators such as low unemployment and soaring business confidence, reiterating they wouldn't last through Trump's first term. At least one expert predicted that recent slides in housing and auto sales were the first step toward a U.S. recession.
Murray Gunn, chief of global research at Elliott Wave International, told the Post, "We think the major economies are on the cusp of turning into the worst recessions we have seen in 10 years. Should the [U.S.] economy start to shrink, and our analysis suggests that it will, the high nominal levels of debt will instantly become a very big issue."
Experts cautioned that several economic markers had gotten much worse over the past decade, especially in regard to borrowed money. The U.S. household debt of $13.3 trillion is now far worse than it was during its 2008 peak, due primarily to mortgage lending.
Outstanding student loan debts have simultaneously increased from $611 billion of unpaid debt in 2008 to more than $1.5 trillion today. Automobile loans have far exceeded their 2008 peaks, sitting at about $1.25 trillion today, and unpaid credit card balances are just as high as the years leading up to the Great Recession.
Central bankers have also more than doubled global debt as they flooded national economies with cheap and easy money. In 2008, global debt sat at $177 trillion, in comparison to $247 trillion today.
“We won’t be able to call it a recession, it’s going to be worse than the Great Depression,” economic commentator Peter Schiff told the Post. “The U.S. economy is in so much worse shape than it was a decade ago.”
A widespread drop in spending and income means that default rates will likely worsen in coming years. Schiff also blamed the U.S. Federal Reserve and other central banks in part for the impending crisis.
“I think we are going to have a dollar crisis—you think the Turkish lira looks bad now, wait till you see when the dollar is imploding and we have a sovereign debt crisis in the U.S.,” Schiff told the Post. “The U.S. government is going to be given a choice between defaulting on the debt, or else massive runaway inflation.”
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There will almost certainly be a financial crash before the end of Trump's first term; not that it has much to do with him.
The housing market is primed for a repeat of 2008. That bubble never fully burst and lenders are back to their sub prime tricks.
The housing market is primed for a repeat of 2008. That bubble never fully burst and lenders are back to their sub prime tricks.
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Peter Schiff has been a mega-bear for like 20 years now. Putting him in a Trump-related article is pretty funny.
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#WalkAway
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Is this the thread where we are talking about Kavanaugh? I don’t know.
But I’ll just say it here, if Susan Collins and that Murkowski lady vote no on Kavanaugh, Trump only has his stupid ass self to blame.
Let the FBI finish their investigation, until it’s complete, and Kavanaugh is confirmed, shut your stupid fucking mouth, Trump.
But I’ll just say it here, if Susan Collins and that Murkowski lady vote no on Kavanaugh, Trump only has his stupid ass self to blame.
Let the FBI finish their investigation, until it’s complete, and Kavanaugh is confirmed, shut your stupid fucking mouth, Trump.
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That discussion was more in the Outrage thread.
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Mueller shedding more attorneys in Russia investigation
WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller is trimming more attorneys from his office, another sign his team of prosecutors is winding down parts of their investigation into potential ties between Russia and President Donald Trump's campaign.
Two prosecutors detailed to the Russia investigation for the past year are returning to their duties in other parts of the Justice Department. They join two other attorneys who left the team over the summer.
The departures, confirmed by Mueller's office Tuesday, are the latest indication that the special counsel is wrapping up at least some pieces of an investigation that has shadowed Trump's presidency from the outset. But it's only a limited view into the tight-lipped Mueller's timetable or possible endgame. Critical investigative strands still remain, such as an active grand jury probe of longtime Trump associate Roger Stone and ongoing negotiations over an interview with Trump.
Mueller spokesman Peter Carr said prosecutor Brandon Van Grack has already returned to the Justice Department's national security division but will continue to be involved in cases he was assigned to. That includes the investigation into former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn, who is scheduled to be sentenced in December.
Prosecutor Kyle Freeny will end her detail to the special counsel later this month and will return to her position in the Justice Department's money laundering section, Carr said.
Van Grack and Freeny were on the teams prosecuting Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
Besides the grand jury inquiry into Stone, other elements of the Mueller investigation remain active, including inquiries into whether the president took action to obstruct the probe and the central unresolved question of whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia during the 2016 election.
But after a series of indictments and high-profile plea deals with Trump associates in recent months, Mueller's shown signs of narrowing his focus, referring cases to other offices of the Justice Department, letting other U.S. attorneys largely take over cases he brought and allowing prosecutors to leave his team without replacement.
Prosecutors in Manhattan, for instance, secured a guilty plea in August from Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, a case referred by Mueller. The U.S. attorney's office in Washington has been assigned to the special counsel's case against 13 Russians charged in a hidden but powerful social media effort to sway American public opinion.
That same office also prosecuted W. Samuel Patten, who pleaded guilty to acting as an unregistered foreign agent in a case also referred by Mueller's office.
Other lawyers who left the Mueller team earlier this year include computer crimes prosecutor Ryan Dickey, who worked cases against a Russian social media troll farm and 12 Russian intelligence officers accused of hacking Democratic groups during the campaign, and Brian Richardson.
Richardson was part of a team that prosecuted former Skadden Arps attorney Alex van der Zwaan for lying to the FBI while they were investigating Manafort and others involved in his Ukrainian work.
All told, Mueller's team has obtained six guilty pleas, including from four Trump campaign advisers, and a jury conviction. He has pending indictments against 26 others and three Russian companies.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Special counsel Robert Mueller is trimming more attorneys from his office, another sign his team of prosecutors is winding down parts of their investigation into potential ties between Russia and President Donald Trump's campaign.
Two prosecutors detailed to the Russia investigation for the past year are returning to their duties in other parts of the Justice Department. They join two other attorneys who left the team over the summer.
The departures, confirmed by Mueller's office Tuesday, are the latest indication that the special counsel is wrapping up at least some pieces of an investigation that has shadowed Trump's presidency from the outset. But it's only a limited view into the tight-lipped Mueller's timetable or possible endgame. Critical investigative strands still remain, such as an active grand jury probe of longtime Trump associate Roger Stone and ongoing negotiations over an interview with Trump.
Mueller spokesman Peter Carr said prosecutor Brandon Van Grack has already returned to the Justice Department's national security division but will continue to be involved in cases he was assigned to. That includes the investigation into former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn, who is scheduled to be sentenced in December.
Prosecutor Kyle Freeny will end her detail to the special counsel later this month and will return to her position in the Justice Department's money laundering section, Carr said.
Van Grack and Freeny were on the teams prosecuting Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
Besides the grand jury inquiry into Stone, other elements of the Mueller investigation remain active, including inquiries into whether the president took action to obstruct the probe and the central unresolved question of whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia during the 2016 election.
But after a series of indictments and high-profile plea deals with Trump associates in recent months, Mueller's shown signs of narrowing his focus, referring cases to other offices of the Justice Department, letting other U.S. attorneys largely take over cases he brought and allowing prosecutors to leave his team without replacement.
Prosecutors in Manhattan, for instance, secured a guilty plea in August from Trump's former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, a case referred by Mueller. The U.S. attorney's office in Washington has been assigned to the special counsel's case against 13 Russians charged in a hidden but powerful social media effort to sway American public opinion.
That same office also prosecuted W. Samuel Patten, who pleaded guilty to acting as an unregistered foreign agent in a case also referred by Mueller's office.
Other lawyers who left the Mueller team earlier this year include computer crimes prosecutor Ryan Dickey, who worked cases against a Russian social media troll farm and 12 Russian intelligence officers accused of hacking Democratic groups during the campaign, and Brian Richardson.
Richardson was part of a team that prosecuted former Skadden Arps attorney Alex van der Zwaan for lying to the FBI while they were investigating Manafort and others involved in his Ukrainian work.
All told, Mueller's team has obtained six guilty pleas, including from four Trump campaign advisers, and a jury conviction. He has pending indictments against 26 others and three Russian companies.
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If BipolarFuk wants to parade around Peter Schiff's advice then he's going to have to recant pretty much every other political post he's ever made on this website. Because Schiff easily refutes pretty much everything Bipolar has ever said, economy-wise.
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Regardless of whether anything illegal was done or not, the NY Times article destroys the notion that Trump tried to project that is some kind of self made man and that he only got 1 mil from his deddy.
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