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This is what is wrong with America.

What’s wrong with America, where politics is concerned, is the loudest voices are intellectually lazy and go to extremes for attention on both sides.

Trump’s presidency is hopefully doing what it was intended to. Hopefully both sides will calm the fuck down the next time we have two decent people running for POTUS. Maybe all the extreme rhetoric will take a back seat to what matters.

Maybe journalists and media hacks will fairly vet both candidates. How great would it be if an Obama can be critiqued fairly by the Right, and a Mitt Romney can be fairly critiqued by the left? And I don’t know, both sides can hold their candidate accountable?

Two of the cleanest people to run in a lot of years, and Obama was blasted and called a foreigner, and Mitt Romney, demonized for shit he did on a playground in 1950 or some shit. Grow the fuck up already, America.
 

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What’s wrong with America, where politics is concerned, is the loudest voices are intellectually lazy and go to extremes for attention on both sides.

Trump’s presidency is hopefully doing what it was intended to. Hopefully both sides will calm the fuck down the next time we have two decent people running for POTUS. Maybe all the extreme rhetoric will take a back seat to what matters.

Maybe journalists and media hacks will fairly vet both candidates. How great would it be if an Obama can be critiqued fairly by the Right, and a Mitt Romney can be fairly critiqued by the left? And I don’t know, both sides can hold their candidate accountable?

Two of the cleanest people to run in a lot of years, and Obama was blasted and called a foreigner, and Mitt Romney, demonized for shit he did on a playground in 1950 or some shit. Grow the fuck up already, America.
Spot f'ing on.
 

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What’s wrong with America, where politics is concerned, is the loudest voices are intellectually lazy and go to extremes for attention on both sides.

Trump’s presidency is hopefully doing what it was intended to. Hopefully both sides will calm the fuck down the next time we have two decent people running for POTUS. Maybe all the extreme rhetoric will take a back seat to what matters.

Maybe journalists and media hacks will fairly vet both candidates. How great would it be if an Obama can be critiqued fairly by the Right, and a Mitt Romney can be fairly critiqued by the left? And I don’t know, both sides can hold their candidate accountable?

Two of the cleanest people to run in a lot of years, and Obama was blasted and called a foreigner, and Mitt Romney, demonized for shit he did on a playground in 1950 or some shit. Grow the fuck up already, America.
I agree, and the nonsense in the media, as well as the nonsensical reactions to what is in the media is part and parcel of what you're describing, which includes the idiotic belief that a President should be able to shutter news sources.

It's symbiotic and self-perpetuating.
 

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Trump Will Have to Answer for the Real Puerto Rican Death Toll

Trump Will Have to Answer for the Real Puerto Rican Death Toll

With an estimated 2,975 dead, Hurricane Maria will be a permanent stain on Trump’s legacy.

Slowly, the truth is coming out. A new study by George Washington University’s Milken Institute School of Public Health has found that Hurricane Maria killed far more people in Puerto Rico than initially thought. The findings attribute an estimated 2,975 deaths to the storm from September 2017 through February 2018.

This is a long way from 64, which was the official government estimate in the months after the storm. And it more or less supports a recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which suggested a range of deaths, from 800 to 8,000 (this study used a different, and less rigorous, methodology).

If the new study holds up, it makes Maria the worst U.S. hurricane since 1900, when a big storm wiped out Galveston, Texas, killing 8,000. And it makes Maria a human disaster on the scale of 9/11, when 2,996 people died.

It also casts a new light on President Trump’s comments during his visit to Puerto Rico in the weeks after the storm, when he implied that the U.S. territory hadn’t suffered a “real catastrophe” like Katrina, which killed 1,833 people. At the time of Trump’s visit, the death count in Puerto Rico was estimated at 16. Even then, everyone knew that number was inaccurate – Puerto Ricans were still digging out from the storm, and nobody had any idea of the real scale of destruction.

“If you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here with, really, a storm that was just totally overpowering — nobody has ever seen anything like this,” Trump said. “Sixteen versus literally thousands of people. You can be very proud. Everybody around this table and everybody watching can really be very proud of what’s taken place in Puerto Rico.”

Two weeks later, Trump was asked in the Oval Office how he would rate the administration’s response to the storm on a scale of 1 to 10.

“I’d say it was a 10,” Trump said. “I’d say it was probably the most difficult when you talk about relief, when you talk about search, when you talk about all of the different levels, and even when you talk about lives saved.”

To arrive at the estimate of 2,975 deaths, the study looked at historical death patterns from 2010 to 2017 to estimate how many people would have died had Hurricane Maria not hit the island. That number was then compared to the actual number of deaths from September 2017 through February 2018 — obtained in records provided by the Puerto Rico Vital Statistics Records division of the Puerto Rico Department of Health — to determine what the report describes as the “estimate of excess mortality due to the hurricane.”

Beyond the death count, the study also found that people of all ages and social stratums were killed in the storm. But risk of death was 45 percent higher for people living in what the researchers call “low socioeconomic development municipalities,” reaffirming a central truth of disasters: They hit poor people hardest.

This graph, which is included in the study and shows the difference in deaths between rich, middle-income and poor, is striking:

The report offers some explanation for why the initial count of 64 was so much lower than this new figure. It suggests that many doctors didn’t know the proper procedure to fill out death certificates, and the collapse of communication infrastructure on the island meant they couldn’t ask. It adds that some doctors were reluctant to relate death to hurricanes “due to concerns … about liability.”

The report also slams the Puerto Rican government for relying on emergency plans that were outdated and not designed for greater than Category 1 hurricanes. And there were no back-up plans for how to communicate after a disaster that wiped out cell towers and Internet service on virtually the entire island.

The study offers a number of recommendations about how to better record death in the event of the next disaster. But, more importantly, it is an opportunity for Puerto Ricans to remind the world of the enormity of what they have suffered — and are still suffering, as recovery from the hurricane continues all too slowly. As San Juan mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz tweeted shortly after the study was released today:
 

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Trump warns evangelicals of 'violence' if GOP loses in the midterms

Trump warns evangelicals of 'violence' if GOP loses in the midterms

US President Donald Trump, facing scrutiny for hush money payments to a porn star and a former Playboy model, pleaded with evangelical leaders for political help during closed-door remarks on Monday, warning of dire consequences to their congregations should Republicans lose in November's midterm elections.

"This November 6 election is very much a referendum on not only me, it's a referendum on your religion, it's a referendum on free speech and the First Amendment. It's a referendum on so much," Trump told the assemblage of pastors and other Christian leaders gathered in the State Dining Room, according to a recording from people in the room.

"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence. When you look at Antifa -- these are violent people," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots. "You have tremendous power. You were saying, in this room, you have people who preach to almost 200 million people. Depending on which Sunday we're talking about."

Antifa -- a loose collection of anti-fascist groups who regularly stage counter-protests against white supremacists and neo-Nazis -- have emerged as an effective bogeyman for segments of the US right.

In a video released last year by the National Rifle Association (NRA), the pro-gun group used footage from street protests and occasional Antifa violence to paint all on the US left as seeking to "bully and terrorize the law-abiding."

Trump previously appeared to link Antifa to violence at a Charlottesville demonstration last year in which a white supremacist killed a left-wing counter protester and injured 19 others. The President later said there was "blame on both sides."

'Get people to support us'

Evangelicals have provided a solid block of support for Trump, even amid the scandals involving alleged sexual affairs.

After news of those purported encounters emerged, his standing among white evangelicals did not slip. But inviting the leaders to the White House only days after the President was newly implicated by his longtime personal lawyer's guilty plea underscored the degree to which Trump is trying to keep his supporters on his side.

"You have to hopefully get out and get people to support us," Trump said. "If you don't, that will be the beginning of ending everything that you've gotten."

Trump will need to maintain that support if he hopes to help Republicans stay in power on Capitol Hill or win re-election himself in 2020. On Monday, he touted the steps he's taken to promote religious liberty, such as loosening restrictions on political speech from the pulpit, which previously could jeopardize religious institutions' tax-exempt status.

The remarks from an attendee's recording offered a more dire view of the upcoming vote than Trump has projected in public. He often trumpets an upcoming "red wave" of Republican victories, downplaying suggestions that Democrats are poised to exploit his divisiveness and retake the House or Senate.

Trump didn't mention a "red wave" on Monday, instead acknowledging that midterms often present new presidents with a turnout challenge.

"The polls might be good, but a lot of them say they are going to vote in 2020, but they're not going to vote if I'm not on a ballot," he said. "I think we're doing well, I think we're popular, but there's a real question as to whether people are going to vote if I'm not on the ballot. And I'm not on the ballot."

That's a problem Trump said the evangelical leaders could help solve by galvanizing their congregations and followers to vote.

"I just ask you to go out and make sure all of your people vote. Because if they don't -- it's November 6 -- if they don't vote, we're going to have a miserable two years and we're going to have, frankly, a very hard period of time," he said.

"You're one election away from losing everything that you've gotten," he added. "Little thing: Merry Christmas, right? You couldn't say 'Merry Christmas.' "
 

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Yes, he warns of violence by the left. What a stupid misleading title.
 

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Yes, he warns of violence by the left. What a stupid misleading title.
They continue to twist words and add meaning to everything he says.

Let them concentrate on trying to take him down. Every minute they spend on him, is a minute they aren’t taking to the airwaves to get their candidates elected in the mid-terms. The liberal media played a large part in getting him elected, they’ll do it again in 2020. They literally learned nothing from 2016. That’s the most surprising take away from 2016. They never took time to consider what part they had in it.

I wonder if any of them watch themselves back on tv? Their bias is so incredibly obvious, they don’t even try to hide it anymore.
 

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Yes, he warns of violence by the left. What a stupid misleading title.
"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence. When you look at Antifa -- these are violent people," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots.

Do you even read, bro?
 

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"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence. When you look at Antifa -- these are violent people," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots.

Do you even read, bro?
The title, as well as every lead on the television made it sound like he was calling his followers to violence if the GOP has a bad primary season.
 

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They continue to twist words and add meaning to everything he says.

Let them concentrate on trying to take him down. Every minute they spend on him, is a minute they aren’t taking to the airwaves to get their candidates elected in the mid-terms. The liberal media played a large part in getting him elected, they’ll do it again in 2020. They literally learned nothing from 2016. That’s the most surprising take away from 2016. They never took time to consider what part they had in it.

I wonder if any of them watch themselves back on tv? Their bias is so incredibly obvious, they don’t even try to hide it anymore.
It's absolutely incredible to witness. I have never seen anything like it in my 44 years.
 

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"It's not a question of like or dislike, it's a question that they will overturn everything that we've done and they will do it quickly and violently. And violently. There is violence. When you look at Antifa -- these are violent people," Trump said, describing what would happen should his voters fail to cast ballots.

Do you even read, bro?
Uhh, yeah, like I said, he is saying the left will be violent, so the title is misleading.

Ironic that you would ask me if I could read.
 

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It's absolutely incredible to witness. I have never seen anything like it in my 44 years.
The current crop of devious democrats of which BiPo is one have no intregity or moral barometers. It is so easy to make up lies and misconceptions without even understanding they are dividing the nation and and care less if anyone Is affected by their lies and devious practices.

They are at the point to where they are becoming the worse stain on the history of the US. political scene by taking their worst enemy (Trump) and attempting to portray him as the worst possible threat to which they have actually become themselves. When in Truth his administration has been guiding this country to a more equitable position than has ever existed before.

They will even stand before the nation and deliberately spread their deaviousness just for the sake of portraying people who disagree as being ignorant and intolerable. It’s the most abusive use of American freedoms to ever be utilized in the name of political persuasion.
 

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The current crop of devious democrats of which BiPo is one have no intregity or moral barometers. It is so easy to make up lies and misconceptions without even understanding they are dividing the nation and and care less if anyone Is affected by their lies and devious practices.

They are at the point to where they are becoming the worse stain on the history of the US. political scene by taking their worst enemy (Trump) and attempting to portray him as the worst possible threat to which they have actually become themselves. When in Truth his administration has been guiding this country to a more equitable position than has ever existed before.

They will even stand before the nation and deliberately spread their deaviousness just for the sake of portraying people who disagree as being ignorant and intolerable. It’s the most abusive use of American freedoms to ever be utilized in the name of political persuasion.
:lol

Take the orange dick out of your mouth for once.
 

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Take the orange dick out of your mouth for once.
That’s the response I expected from you. It the only way you know how to act. All of us know your style and if need be reread what I posted again. Your response came back with a perfect image.
 

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God bless you Mr. President
 

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With an estimated 2,975 dead, Hurricane Maria will be a permanent stain on Trump’s legacy.

Slowly, the truth is coming out. A new study by George Washington University’s Milken Institute School of Public Health has found that Hurricane Maria killed far more people in Puerto Rico than initially thought. The findings attribute an estimated 2,975 deaths to the storm from September 2017 through February 2018.

This is a long way from 64, which was the official government estimate in the months after the storm. And it more or less supports a recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which suggested a range of deaths, from 800 to 8,000 (this study used a different, and less rigorous, methodology).

If the new study holds up, it makes Maria the worst U.S. hurricane since 1900, when a big storm wiped out Galveston, Texas, killing 8,000. And it makes Maria a human disaster on the scale of 9/11, when 2,996 people died.

It also casts a new light on President Trump’s comments during his visit to Puerto Rico in the weeks after the storm, when he implied that the U.S. territory hadn’t suffered a “real catastrophe” like Katrina, which killed 1,833 people. At the time of Trump’s visit, the death count in Puerto Rico was estimated at 16. Even then, everyone knew that number was inaccurate – Puerto Ricans were still digging out from the storm, and nobody had any idea of the real scale of destruction.

“If you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here with, really, a storm that was just totally overpowering — nobody has ever seen anything like this,” Trump said. “Sixteen versus literally thousands of people. You can be very proud. Everybody around this table and everybody watching can really be very proud of what’s taken place in Puerto Rico.”

Two weeks later, Trump was asked in the Oval Office how he would rate the administration’s response to the storm on a scale of 1 to 10.

“I’d say it was a 10,” Trump said. “I’d say it was probably the most difficult when you talk about relief, when you talk about search, when you talk about all of the different levels, and even when you talk about lives saved.”

To arrive at the estimate of 2,975 deaths, the study looked at historical death patterns from 2010 to 2017 to estimate how many people would have died had Hurricane Maria not hit the island. That number was then compared to the actual number of deaths from September 2017 through February 2018 — obtained in records provided by the Puerto Rico Vital Statistics Records division of the Puerto Rico Department of Health — to determine what the report describes as the “estimate of excess mortality due to the hurricane.”

Beyond the death count, the study also found that people of all ages and social stratums were killed in the storm. But risk of death was 45 percent higher for people living in what the researchers call “low socioeconomic development municipalities,” reaffirming a central truth of disasters: They hit poor people hardest.

This graph, which is included in the study and shows the difference in deaths between rich, middle-income and poor, is striking:

The report offers some explanation for why the initial count of 64 was so much lower than this new figure. It suggests that many doctors didn’t know the proper procedure to fill out death certificates, and the collapse of communication infrastructure on the island meant they couldn’t ask. It adds that some doctors were reluctant to relate death to hurricanes “due to concerns … about liability.”

The report also slams the Puerto Rican government for relying on emergency plans that were outdated and not designed for greater than Category 1 hurricanes. And there were no back-up plans for how to communicate after a disaster that wiped out cell towers and Internet service on virtually the entire island.

The study offers a number of recommendations about how to better record death in the event of the next disaster. But, more importantly, it is an opportunity for Puerto Ricans to remind the world of the enormity of what they have suffered — and are still suffering, as recovery from the hurricane continues all too slowly. As San Juan mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz tweeted shortly after the study was released today:
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/puerto-rico-death-toll-716769/

Anyoo, it looks like Trump killed almost 3000 Puerto Ricans by sending a hurricane their way. Racist!
 
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