President Trump Thread...

[bbgun]

I don't buy that for a second. I doubt many people who were motivated to get off their ass and vote Obama would turn right back around four years later and vote Trump.

Oh, I'm sure plenty of white men did. They're fleeing the Dem party in droves. Trump doesn't win Penn, Wisc or Michigan without their support.

 

[boozeman]

Oh, I'm sure plenty of white men did. They're fleeing the Dem party in droves. Trump doesn't win Penn, Wisc or Michigan withhold their support.

The specific kind of white guy you are talking about probably sat out the previous election due to learned helplessness.

 

[Cotton]

Keep calling all of us trash. You can enjoy Trump as President for 4 more years come 2020.

 

[BipolarFuk]

Trump’s trade war with China is finally here — and it won’t be pretty

Trump’s trade war with China is finally here — and it won’t be pretty

Some said the day would never come, that it was all a bluff. But as the Independence Day fireworks cool in Washington, the eve of the trade war has arrived in China’s capital, where government leaders keep reminding people: We did not start this, but we will fight back.

President Trump’s first tariffs are scheduled to hit $34 billion of Chinese imports on Friday, and Beijing plans to swiftly respond with levies on an equal amount of goods. Border officers here could receive the order as early as midnight to slap new taxes on hundreds of American products, including pork, poultry, soybeans and corn.

And so would begin an unprecedented commerce battle between the world’s two largest economies — a conflict analysts fear could rattle markets, cripple trade and undermine ties between the United States and China at a time when the administration seeks Beijing’s cooperation on North Korea.

As the global business community watches the clock, China is moving to pin the fallout on Trump, framing the United States as a bully the Asian nation is forced to confront. A state media editorial this week called America’s “dictatorial bent” a global threat, while officials said China will “absolutely not” take the first swing.

“As long as the U.S. side rolls out its tariffs list, China will respond with all necessary measures to firmly safeguard our legitimate rights and interests,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters Wednesday.

Those measures appear to be aimed at America’s heartland, which helped lift Trump into the White House. Farmers in the overwhelmingly red Midwest fear they’ll lose access to China’s lucrative market and be left with the bill for excess produce and livestock.

What happens next is anyone’s guess, analysts say, since both sides have pledged not to back down.

“It’s a dark day tomorrow for global trade,” predicted Joerg Wuttke, former president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China.

Uncertainty hangs over companies, supply chains and investment plans, he said. American firms in China are already reporting spikes in random inspections at ports.

One U.S. manufacturer said Chinese authorities on average used to inspect 2 percent of the vehicles it sent abroad. Since June, agents have taken a closer look at every product.

“Don’t expect the ‘war’ to be out in the open in some imaginary tit-for-tat tariff battlefield,” said James Zimmerman, a partner in the Beijing office of international law firm Perkins Coie LLP. “The real battle will be on the flanks”— in the form of unnecessary inspections, product quarantines and heightened regulatory scrutiny.

Supply chains will also suffer a blow, said Cliff Tan, East Asian head of Global Markets Research at Japan’s MUFG Bank in Hong Kong. The initial set of American tariffs could rock companies in the technology sector and hike the price of “Walmart-type” products.

“It’s like a war where everybody points the guns at themselves,” Tan said.

The conflict over U.S.-China trade has been brewing for years, but has intensified rapidly in 2018. On April 3, the U.S. released a list of targets for proposed tariffs on $50 billion worth of Chinese imports, taking aim at high-tech and industrial goods. On April 4, China fired back.

In the months since, the tit-for-tat has escalated, with the U.S. threatening successive rounds of tariffs on goods valued at hundreds of billions of dollars. China vowed to match U.S. moves, using both quantitative and qualitative measures.

Kenneth Jarrett, president of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai, said that a sense of anxiety has settled over business in the port city.

“My hope is that with this start, people will feel that the cost is too great and we will not move on to the second wave,” he said.

Thus far, the U.S. president has showed no interest in a last-minute truce. Though he has called Chinese President Xi Jinping a “good friend,” he has expressed no apprehension over what could happen in either country when the first tariffs land.

“Trade wars are good,” Trump recently tweeted, “and easy to win.”

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don't buy that for a second. I doubt many people who were motivated to get off their ass and vote Obama would turn right back around four years later and vote Trump.

I don't know about that. I think a lot of people who voted for Obama were motivated by making history and being part of the group that elected America's first African American president. I could see a lot of those people feeling left out and abandoned by the last administration, enough so that they got out and voted for Trump.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Some said the day would never come, that it was all a bluff. But as the Independence Day fireworks cool in Washington, the eve of the trade war has arrived in China’s capital, where government leaders keep reminding people: We did not start this, but we will fight back.

President Trump’s first tariffs are scheduled to hit $34 billion of Chinese imports on Friday, and Beijing plans to swiftly respond with levies on an equal amount of goods. Border officers here could receive the order as early as midnight to slap new taxes on hundreds of American products, including pork, poultry, soybeans and corn.

And so would begin an unprecedented commerce battle between the world’s two largest economies — a conflict analysts fear could rattle markets, cripple trade and undermine ties between the United States and China at a time when the administration seeks Beijing’s cooperation on North Korea.

As the global business community watches the clock, China is moving to pin the fallout on Trump, framing the United States as a bully the Asian nation is forced to confront. A state media editorial this week called America’s “dictatorial bent” a global threat, while officials said China will “absolutely not” take the first swing.

“As long as the U.S. side rolls out its tariffs list, China will respond with all necessary measures to firmly safeguard our legitimate rights and interests,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters Wednesday.

Those measures appear to be aimed at America’s heartland, which helped lift Trump into the White House. Farmers in the overwhelmingly red Midwest fear they’ll lose access to China’s lucrative market and be left with the bill for excess produce and livestock.

What happens next is anyone’s guess, analysts say, since both sides have pledged not to back down.

“It’s a dark day tomorrow for global trade,” predicted Joerg Wuttke, former president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China.

Uncertainty hangs over companies, supply chains and investment plans, he said. American firms in China are already reporting spikes in random inspections at ports.

One U.S. manufacturer said Chinese authorities on average used to inspect 2 percent of the vehicles it sent abroad. Since June, agents have taken a closer look at every product.

“Don’t expect the ‘war’ to be out in the open in some imaginary tit-for-tat tariff battlefield,” said James Zimmerman, a partner in the Beijing office of international law firm Perkins Coie LLP. “The real battle will be on the flanks”— in the form of unnecessary inspections, product quarantines and heightened regulatory scrutiny.

Supply chains will also suffer a blow, said Cliff Tan, East Asian head of Global Markets Research at Japan’s MUFG Bank in Hong Kong. The initial set of American tariffs could rock companies in the technology sector and hike the price of “Walmart-type” products.

“It’s like a war where everybody points the guns at themselves,” Tan said.

The conflict over U.S.-China trade has been brewing for years, but has intensified rapidly in 2018. On April 3, the U.S. released a list of targets for proposed tariffs on $50 billion worth of Chinese imports, taking aim at high-tech and industrial goods. On April 4, China fired back.

In the months since, the tit-for-tat has escalated, with the U.S. threatening successive rounds of tariffs on goods valued at hundreds of billions of dollars. China vowed to match U.S. moves, using both quantitative and qualitative measures.

Kenneth Jarrett, president of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai, said that a sense of anxiety has settled over business in the port city.

“My hope is that with this start, people will feel that the cost is too great and we will not move on to the second wave,” he said.

Thus far, the U.S. president has showed no interest in a last-minute truce. Though he has called Chinese President Xi Jinping a “good friend,” he has expressed no apprehension over what could happen in either country when the first tariffs land.

“Trade wars are good,” Trump recently tweeted, “and easy to win.”

With all the brilliant ideas of the writers on the left, why weren’t some of these jeweled thoughts channeled to the left leaders and more specifically to Obama to create a dazzling group of trade agreements. All the current activities could have been averted and it would be smooth sailing for the democratic candidate in the last election. Why is it that they can be almost clairvoient now with their writing skills.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I thought it was pretty much established fact that many swing voters in the upper midwest (as BB said) voted for Obama at least the first time (and maybe the second), then swung to Trump.

Despite all the ideological screaming on Twitter, most voters don't care about the SJW wars. They want a better economy for themselves and their families. So they voted Obama after the financial meltdown and Trump after Obama's feeble recovery.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I thought it was pretty much established fact that many swing voters in the upper midwest (as BB said) voted for Obama at least the first time (and maybe the second), then swung to Trump.

Despite all the ideological screaming on Twitter, most voters don't care about the SJW wars. They want a better economy for themselves and their families. So they voted Obama after the financial meltdown and Trump after Obama's feeble recovery.

Yep, in the end the economy is really what's most important when it comes to government policy.

 

[Cotton]

"The party of tolerance."

 

[Cotton]

 

[bbgun]

Maxine Waters' irresponsible plea for violence is getting results.

 

[BipolarFuk]

Man who hurled soda, took teen's MAGA hat might have heard 'hanging blacks' remarks, witness says

Man who hurled soda, took teen's MAGA hat might have heard 'hanging blacks' remarks, witness says

A man who tossed a drink at a teen wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat at a San Antonio Whataburger may have been responding to racist remarks, according to a man who was at the restaurant with his family.

The witness told KENS-TV in San Antonio that he and his family saw the three teens in the video joke about "hanging blacks" and killing off minorities. But they left before the incident occurred.

"They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July," the witness said.

The station did not identify the man who said he overheard the comments. The station said the man and his family had receieved death threats for talking about what they witnessed.

A mother's Facebook post went viral about claims a video shows a man tossing a drink at her son and his friends because one of them wore a MAGA hat. She said the attack was unprovoked.

The man who threw the drink stole the hat bearing the slogan of President Trump and ripped out a few of Hunter Richard's hairs Wednesday before he walked away, the 16-year-old told the station prior to the witness coming forward.

Hunter said he filed a police report. San Antonio police have not responded to a request for comment.

"This is going to go great in my [expletive] fireplace, [expletive]," the man says as he walks away.

"All right, have fun with it," one of the teens responds.

Hunter said he wishes the man had just talked to him about their differences in politics.

"I support mypresident, and if you don't let's have a conversation about it instead of ripping my hat off," Hunter told the television station. "I just think a conversation about politics is more productive for the entire whole rather than taking my hat and yelling subjective words to me."

The woman who posted the video, Patricia Spittler, asked for help identifying the man, who she called "scum bag of the year."

"His friend was wearing a patriotic hat, and this happened! It would be nice to know who he is for someone to let him know his actions are not okay! Real tough guy... approaches a group of teenagers minding their own business just having a burger! He kept his hat, too," Spittler wrote in her original Facebook post, according to KCEN-TV in Temple.

The Facebook video has been changed to a private setting, but it was also posted on YouTube.

The person who posted the video on YouTube says the man who threw the drink should be deported. There is no evidence the man is in the country illegally.

Whataburger released a statement Thursday saying no employees witnessed the incident.

"We were shocked to see this video and certainly don't condone this type of customer behavior in our restaurants," the statement said. "To be clear, no Whataburger employees were involved or witnessed the incident, and we ask that questions be directed to San Antonio PD as we continue supporting their efforts."

 

[bbgun]

 

[skidadl]

A man who tossed a drink at a teen wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat at a San Antonio Whataburger may have been responding to racist remarks, according to a man who was at the restaurant with his family.

The witness told KENS-TV in San Antonio that he and his family saw the three teens in the video joke about "hanging blacks" and killing off minorities. But they left before the incident occurred.

"They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July," the witness said.

The station did not identify the man who said he overheard the comments. The station said the man and his family had receieved death threats for talking about what they witnessed.

A mother's Facebook post went viral about claims a video shows a man tossing a drink at her son and his friends because one of them wore a MAGA hat. She said the attack was unprovoked.

The man who threw the drink stole the hat bearing the slogan of President Trump and ripped out a few of Hunter Richard's hairs Wednesday before he walked away, the 16-year-old told the station prior to the witness coming forward.

Hunter said he filed a police report. San Antonio police have not responded to a request for comment.

"This is going to go great in my [expletive] fireplace, [expletive]," the man says as he walks away.

"All right, have fun with it," one of the teens responds.

Hunter said he wishes the man had just talked to him about their differences in politics.

"I support mypresident, and if you don't let's have a conversation about it instead of ripping my hat off," Hunter told the television station. "I just think a conversation about politics is more productive for the entire whole rather than taking my hat and yelling subjective words to me."

The woman who posted the video, Patricia Spittler, asked for help identifying the man, who she called "scum bag of the year."

"His friend was wearing a patriotic hat, and this happened! It would be nice to know who he is for someone to let him know his actions are not okay! Real tough guy... approaches a group of teenagers minding their own business just having a burger! He kept his hat, too," Spittler wrote in her original Facebook post, according to KCEN-TV in Temple.

The Facebook video has been changed to a private setting, but it was also posted on YouTube.

The person who posted the video on YouTube says the man who threw the drink should be deported. There is no evidence the man is in the country illegally.

Whataburger released a statement Thursday saying no employees witnessed the incident.

"We were shocked to see this video and certainly don't condone this type of customer behavior in our restaurants," the statement said. "To be clear, no Whataburger employees were involved or witnessed the incident, and we ask that questions be directed to San Antonio PD as we continue supporting their efforts."

How hard are you trying to justify whatever happens in the name of your view here? Do you seriously try this hard to find something that lines up with what you already believe. Disgusting.

 

[skidadl]

It would be telling to see what would happen if a guy wearing a MAGA hat did this to a gay dude. HATE CRIME! FEDERAL PRISON!!

 

[skidadl]

The standard reaction when something happens to a Trump supporter, "oh, he must have been racist, oh well..."

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It would be telling to see what would happen if a guy wearing a MAGA hat did this to a gay dude. HATE CRIME! FEDERAL PRISON!!

What a joke too. They didn't witness the incident. Have no idea what caused it. And aren't willing to stand behind their statements. But yeah, they "overheard it." Is this what we call reporting now? No wonder no one trusts the media. It's a joke.

 

[skidadl]

What a joke too. They didn't witness the incident. Have no idea what caused it. And aren't willing to stand behind their statements. But yeah, they "overheard it." Is this what we call reporting now? No wonder no one trusts the media. It's a joke.

Well, in fairness, this would have never happened if the kid wasn't racist. I mean, did you see him the video wearing an American flag? Sure sign of being a Nazi.

 

[NoDak]

What a joke too. They didn't witness the incident. Have no idea what caused it. And aren't willing to stand behind their statements. But yeah, they "overheard it." Is this what we call reporting now? No wonder no one trusts the media. It's a joke.

It's obviously good enough for bipo, so...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Serious question fellas, but where does this all end? We have political leaders encouraging violence against people who don't agree with them, and their followers are obliging. Things seem to only be spiraling down the drain. What stops this trend?

It's really worrying if you ask me. I wasn't around for the 60s stuff but this is the worst I've ever seen by far.