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He doesn't have to act on it. Just using the name and office is enough. Now proving that is the issue.

I don't need Hunter to know that Biden isn't fit for office. Joe does that all by himself.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

So he isn't levying war and your not exactly giving them aid by just taking their money. Not seeing the connection.

Again, you can assume he is fit or not but honestly none of us know. We aren't around him all day seeing how he interacts with others and if he's able to do his basic daily functions. I've seen plenty of clips where he looks mentally sharp and comes back easily at comments which isn't something a lot of people with neurocognitive dysfunction can muster.
 

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Biden's not guilty of treason, but he should be impeached for failing to enforce this country's immigration laws.
Doesn't really have to be treason per se, anyway. It is not legal to use your influence as a government official to get money for yourself or your family. It's as simple as that. For that matter, it isn't illegal to get a blow job in the Whitehouse, but we all know someone got impeached for it (technically it was for lying about getting a blowjob).
 

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You lost me on this one. I think you're being dishonest.
Im not. I just saw a clip yesterday of him having a sit down with someone and he had a couple of quicker witted responses. It’s not all the time, but it happens.

But back on topic, I wasn’t asking about Joe. Does anyone have a real response about this Hunter stuff or is it just a witch hunt so the GOP has something to be angry at and detract attention from the negative press still surrounding Trump?
 

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When there are texts, recordings and witnesses all attesting to them taking money from several foreign entities, it is not a witch hunt. It isn't treason, but it doesn't need to be treason for them to have done things wrong.
 

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When there are texts, recordings and witnesses all attesting to them taking money from several foreign entities, it is not a witch hunt. It isn't treason, but it doesn't need to be treason for them to have done things wrong.
And back to my point, Hunter isn't a government official. I haven't seen anything that points to him having any influence over his dad and policy making so why is this an issue that is talked about every day?
 

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And back to my point, Hunter isn't a government official. I haven't seen anything that points to him having any influence over his dad and policy making so why is this an issue that is talked about every day?
Because that entire family is corrupt. Biden should have been impeached a month after the Afghanistan withdrawal. Lost 10 soldiers because of his incompetence/recklessness.
 

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Because that entire family is corrupt. Biden should have been impeached a month after the Afghanistan withdrawal. Lost 10 soldiers because of his incompetence/recklessness.
You want to impeach him because of a suicide bomber at an airport? Was Congress supposed to impeach GW because of 9-11 too?
 

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You want to impeach him because of a suicide bomber at an airport? Was Congress supposed to impeach GW because of 9-11 too?
There were people falling off of planes and we left billions of dollars in military equipment behind. Yes, he needs to be impeached for it.
 

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And back to my point, Hunter isn't a government official. I haven't seen anything that points to him having any influence over his dad and policy making so why is this an issue that is talked about every day?
I mean the fact that he was referencing his dad in the text message is a little bit of that evidence you seek. But sure, maybe it was just his son talking out of his ass to try and extort bribes without his dad actually knowing. There is also some evidence that the money was then funneled to pops. Again, just more evidence even though it's circumstantial.

In the end, Joe Biden is just not mentally competent enough to hold his office. But when people still support Fetterman being in office it is pretty clear that most people don't actually care about the competency of these people who hold office. Does anyone really want Harris though? There aren't any good options right now, so everyone is just going to have to wait for the next election. I'm a bit terrified of voters who think "Biden is still sharp" like you have indicated. Honestly I don't think the guy was ever sharp but this has been a disaster.
 

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I believe you are being willfully ignorant here. Not trying to offend you, but the recordings and emails both refer to the president, you know it as well as I do. The texts to the Chinese person say it without any doubt.
As far as his competency, being able to string a coherent thought occasionally does not mean you do not have significant cognitive decline either. My stepmother had severe dementia, but every once in a while, she was sharp as a tack.
I get that you are supportive of the left, but trying to say that the President didn't have anything to do with any of that is being disingenuous.
 

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I mean the fact that he was referencing his dad in the text message is a little bit of that evidence you seek. But sure, maybe it was just his son talking out of his ass to try and extort bribes without his dad actually knowing. There is also some evidence that the money was then funneled to pops. Again, just more evidence even though it's circumstantial.

In the end, Joe Biden is just not mentally competent enough to hold his office. But when people still support Fetterman being in office it is pretty clear that most people don't actually care about the competency of these people who hold office. Does anyone really want Harris though? There aren't any good options right now, so everyone is just going to have to wait for the next election. I'm a bit terrified of voters who think "Biden is still sharp" like you have indicated. Honestly I don't think the guy was ever sharp but this has been a disaster.
If there's evidence that it was funneled to Joe, that should be more than circumstantial shouldn't it? I honestly don't know so I'll defer to you on that. But it seems it would be pretty damning.

Again, I said he had instances he's looked sharp. I know he isn't on a regular basis. But when you're given the choice of a potentially confused old man who may have competent people helping him v Trump, people look at the lesser of 2 evils. You are right, there are no good options right now. Unfortunately, it seems we say that every 4 years.
 

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I believe you are being willfully ignorant here. Not trying to offend you, but the recordings and emails both refer to the president, you know it as well as I do. The texts to the Chinese person say it without any doubt.
As far as his competency, being able to string a coherent thought occasionally does not mean you do not have significant cognitive decline either. My stepmother had severe dementia, but every once in a while, she was sharp as a tack.
I get that you are supportive of the left, but trying to say that the President didn't have anything to do with any of that is being disingenuous.
So you have messages between a blowhard son and a Chinese spy. I would prefer the DOJ just follows the money and see if it ends up with Joe. If not, this is all a waste of time.
 

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If there's evidence that it was funneled to Joe, that should be more than circumstantial shouldn't it? I honestly don't know so I'll defer to you on that. But it seems it would be pretty damning.

Again, I said he had instances he's looked sharp. I know he isn't on a regular basis. But when you're given the choice of a potentially confused old man who may have competent people helping him v Trump, people look at the lesser of 2 evils. You are right, there are no good options right now. Unfortunately, it seems we say that every 4 years.
Remember when we had Hillary against Trump in 2016? I remember.
 

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So you have messages between a blowhard son and a Chinese spy. I would prefer the DOJ just follows the money and see if it ends up with Joe. If not, this is all a waste of time.
Problem is, can they actually follow it at this point?
 

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If what they've seen so far leads them to believe they should continue to follow it, they probably can. It's just a matter of if they will.
My guess is a lot of it got laundered through Ukraine.
 
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