Orton signs with Bills...

[NoDak]

How many times have you seen an owner renig on a deal because he didn't like the way a player performed.

Every time a player is cut?

 

[L.T. Fan]

If Orton wanted to retire then he's screwed the Cowboys out of their bonus and is currently jobbing the Bills by taking a position he has no desire to fulfill. I doubt this as I don't think even the Bills would accept a player who didn't practice, prepare, and learn the offense.

If Orton just wanted out of Dallas, then he only screwed Jerry Jones.

I think he just wanted out of Dallas.

I either case, he made the Cowboys front office look like idiots with all their "confidence in Orton" talk.

So screwing Jerry Jones is okay? Orton is no different than a bank robber who planned and executed his scheme. But I guess that would be okay too if it was a bank you didn't like.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Every time a player is cut?

That's part of the terms of a contract. But he got paid for his poor performance.

 

[Genghis Khan]

It does sound like there may have been some tampering, also saw a couple people tweeting Orton sold his house here in Dallas right after last season though never did see that verified by anybody credible

It does seem like he wanted out after that final game. Maybe because he was starting, he got a look at Garrett's game plan for the first time...

 

[Genghis Khan]

As an aside, I know there is some debate about this, but I didn't think Orton was particularly good that game against a very beatable Eagles team. I am not a fan of Weedon either, but it's not like Orton was helping us win any games, so good riddance.

 

[NoDak]

That's part of the terms of a contract. But he got paid for his poor performance.

Getting cut is part of the terms of a contract? I would like to see those terms.

 

[jsmith6919]

It does seem like he wanted out after that final game. Maybe because he was starting, he got a look at Garrett's game plan for the first time...

maybe

In any case Orton may have thought he would end up playing quite abit here with Tony's back situation and figured if he had to play might as well go somewhere with a defense and an OC who wouldn't call 46 pass plays with a backup qb starting

 

[L.T. Fan]

Getting cut is part of the terms of a contract? I would like to see those terms.

Yes it is. If a player isn't performing the franchise has a right to cut them. It is no different than any other employee/ employer relationship. When a contract is involved it then becomes a "terminated for cause" circumstance and the cause is substandard performance. I'll bet your agreement with clients have the same contingencies.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Getting cut is part of the terms of a contract? I would like to see those terms.

I'd guess it probably is.

These terms do not guarantee employment beyond x date...no monies aside from designated "signing bonus" are guaranteed...aforementioned salary in years beyond x date are contingent upon continued employment...etc.

I'd be pretty surprised if they don't have terms like that, which is essentially saying you could get cut.

 

[Genghis Khan]

maybe

In any case Orton may have thought he would end up playing quite abit here with Tony's back situation and figured if he had to play might as well go somewhere with a defense and an OC who wouldn't call 46 pass plays with a backup qb starting

Yep. It's strange because Orton came here knowing full well he'd just be the backup without any chance of starting. Even though Orton probably could competed for a starting job somewhere.

And the only thing that's changed since then is Romo's back problems means there is more of a chance Orton will play a bunch of snaps. Seems odd timing he'd want out now.

 

[ravidubey]

So screwing Jerry Jones is okay?

No sir it is not.

Orton didn't want to retire. He wanted to play as a backup, just not for Dallas. This is straight from the Elway/Eli playbook.

I wonder what the Hell happened that would turn him off like that.

 

[L.T. Fan]

No sir it is not.

Orton didn't want to retire. He wanted to play as a backup, just not for Dallas. This is straight from the Elway/Eli playbook.

I wonder what the Hell happened that would turn him off like that.

I have no idea what happened but he was under contract and chose to manipulate the organization as a vehicle to opt out. An honorable person would decide to fulfill his obligation or request the contract be altered. He did neither. Instead he used devious practices to obtain his way out.

 

[Genghis Khan]

No sir it is not.

Orton didn't want to retire. He wanted to play as a backup, just not for Dallas. This is straight from the Elway/Eli playbook.

I wonder what the Hell happened that would turn him off like that.

Probably unhappy with the Dallas area strip clubs.

 

[jsmith6919]

Deal is supposedly 5 million for 1 year, didn't think he would get anywhere close to that

 

[1bigfan13]

Deal is supposedly 5 million for 1 year, didn't think he would get anywhere close to that

That's a lot of scratch for a backup.

 

[jsmith6919]

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports new Bills QB Kyle Orton will make $5 million this season.
As ex-Rotoworlder Chris Wesseling points out, that's as much as Josh McCown is making for the Bucs. The Bills have clearly lost faith in E.J. Manuel, and appear ready to turn to Orton at a moment's notice. Manuel will keep his job to begin the season as Orton gets up to speed on the playbook, but has no room for error. With the Bills hoping to field one of the league's run-heaviest offenses, Orton will be a bottom-barrel QB2 if/when he gets the call to replace Manuel. Aug 30 - 7:27 PM

 

[boozeman]

Damn. Orton is a smart guy in terms of making average talent translate into top money.

Props to him.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Wow.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

That's a lot of scratch for a backup.

And that's why he wanted out of Dallas. He got to keep the bonus money we paid him and now will make a cool extra 5 mil. The Bills are idiots.

 

[Carp]

I bet he ends up starting by week 4...Manuel is horrid. Marrone has to start putting some wins up.