NBA Chatter Thread

[Carp]

I am intrigued by the Kings/Sixers rumor of 3 for 5/10. Ypu could take one of Tatum, Monk, Fox, or Smith at 5...then whatever makes sense after at 10...like Isaac, Mitchell, Kennard, Justin Jackson.

I am really coming around on Tatum...i think he is going tp be an excellent scorer

 

[Cowboysrock55]

ok, so you never heard of Reddick but at least you can then go watch tape of him against good competition and see what he's about.

Are you going to get excited about watching highlights of an international player that get 10 mpg because they don't allow their young stars to play a lot? No, you'll walk away thinking "what's all this hype about?"

A highlight reel can make those 10 minutes per game look pretty damn exciting. Plus highlights of workouts and a million other things. The NBA draft will never be as big as the NFL draft but they that doesn't mean there isn't a ton of room for improvement. Hell the NFL draft didn't use to be a big thing either.

 

[1bigfan13]

I did a Google search and see that shortly after taking over as commissioner in 2014 Adam Silver mentioned that he was interested in moving the draft to July and introducing an end of season awards show.

The awards show has already been implemented. It's scheduled to air during the last week of the June.

According to the article the obstacles that stand in the way of moving the draft are current TV deals with broadcast partners, the collective bargaining agreement, and free agency.

I'm glad to see they're at least exploring ideas on how to get the draft pushed back.

 

[Carp]

The NBA should really consider pushing their draft into the month of July. Having their draft the week after the NBA Finals has always seemed a bit rushed to me.

I'm actually shocked the owners and the commissioner haven't done this already. Especially when you consider that the NFL has been successful in stretching out their offseason calendar. Doing so has transformed the NFL from a sport that was only talked about 6-8 months per year to one that's now in the national headlines practically year round.

Pushing the NBA draft back to mid-July seems like common sense to me. A sweet spot would be during that 2-3 day dead period in sports following the MLB All Star game. No other major sports are going on during that time and NFL minicamps are still a couple of weeks away. Their only competition in regards to sports related TV would be ESPN's ESPY Awards which usually air during that time period as well.

Another added benefit to adding more time between the Finals and the draft is that it would give the league more time to promote the draft and the prospects. The media and fans would have more time to publish and dissect mock drafts, and there would be more time for teams to work out players and seek out trade partners. These are things the NFL have used to their advantage to sell their product.

Seems like an easy decision.

They have to strike while the iron is hot. Interest is up now because of the finals...not sure it would be the same in a month. Honestly, with all these long gaps between games...and the start of the finals...I found myself forgetting about the NBA.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

They have to strike while the iron is hot. Interest is up now because of the finals...not sure it would be the same in a month. Honestly, with all these long gaps between games...and the start of the finals...I found myself forgetting about the NBA.

The NBA finals do seem to drag on forever. Imagine if the finals would have gone to a game 7.

 

[BipolarFuk]

76ers and Celtics reportedly trading picks.

 

[Simpleton]

That's the point of having some time for build up to the draft. To get to know players that you haven't heard of. Do you think NFL fans knew about Haason Reddick while he was in college? Of course not. He only became relevant through the long NFL predraft process where fans got to know him and got to know more about his abilities. Hell 90% of the players in the NFL draft casual fans wouldn't know about if it wasn't for reading and researching stuff leading up to the draft. If they rushed and had an NFL draft right after the season most fans would be clueless.

Some knew of Reddick.

 

[Simpleton]

76ers and Celtics reportedly trading picks.

One of the rumors is that the Bulls could get involved with Butler going to the Celtics, Sixers getting the 1 and the Bulls getting the 3.

Throw in the 2018 Nets pick and I'd be very happy.

Of course the Bulls would still have the same gumps in the front office making decisions so it probably won't make a difference but hey.

 

[Deuce]

One of the rumors is that the Bulls could get involved with Butler going to the Celtics, Sixers getting the 1 and the Bulls getting the 3.

Throw in the 2018 Nets pick and I'd be very happy.

Of course the Bulls would still have the same gumps in the front office making decisions so it probably won't make a difference but hey.

That makes no sense. Essentially 2 first overall picks for him? No thanks.

We'll give up the #1 alone for the 3 and the unprotected lakers pick next year and then flip it for Paul George.

All hail Danny Ainge.

 

[Simpleton]

That makes no sense. Essentially 2 first overall picks for him? No thanks.

We'll give up the #1 alone for the 3 and the unprotected lakers pick next year and then flip it for Paul George.

All hail Danny Ainge.

I'd be fine with the 3 and the Lakers pick, that pick and the Nets pick are basically six of one, half dozen of another. I might honestly prefer the Nets pick and the Lakers pick and leave the 2017 picks out since I think Michael Porter is going to be a generational type of talent and the best prospect since Towns. Doubt the Celtics will want to do that though since if they want to go after Hayward too they won't want the salary of that 3rd pick.

But aside from that, you realize that if the plan is to add Hayward and another wing that Butler is the better fit? Butler is the closest thing to a 2 out of the three of them and would make more sense next to Hayward than George.

Then there's also that little part about George basically being LA-bound after next season.

 

[Deuce]

I'd be fine with the 3 and the Lakers pick, that pick and the Nets pick are basically six of one, half dozen of another. I might honestly prefer the Nets pick and the Lakers pick and leave the 2017 picks out since I think Michael Porter is going to be a generational type of talent and the best prospect since Towns. Doubt the Celtics will want to do that though since if they want to go after Hayward too they won't want the salary of that 3rd pick.

But aside from that, you realize that if the plan is to add Hayward and another wing that Butler is the better fit? Butler is the closest thing to a 2 out of the three of them and would make more sense next to Hayward than George.

Then there's also that little part about George basically being LA-bound after next season.

I don't think it's a definite that George goes to LA, especially when they get spurned by Lebron. He'll basically be going to a harder conference for a Pacers-like team again.

Id like him on the C's because I still think he has a few elite seasons left and he has big game playoff experience.

As far as future picks, I think that Lakers pick is #1 next year. They suck hard.

 

[Carp]

76ers and Celtics reportedly trading picks.

I like it. There are alot of moving parts...it will for sure cost the 3 and one of the unprotected picks we have from LAL and SAC. If we go into the season with a starting 5 of Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Fultz...holy balls that is nice. Stauskas, Luwawu, Holmes, McConnell, Bayless...that is very, very nice.

 

[Deuce]

I like it. There are alot of moving parts...it will for sure cost the 3 and one of the unprotected picks we have from LAL and SAC. If we go into the season with a starting 5 of Embiid, Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Fultz...holy balls that is nice. Stauskas, Luwawu, Holmes, McConnell, Bayless...that is very, very nice.

I read earlier they maybe jumping LAL to secure Johnson.

So then LAL take Ball and Ainge walks away with Fultz and the LAL pick.

Ill be Rick Flair struttin' all around the house.

 

[Carp]

Michael Porter is not a generational talent and no way is he the best prospect since KAT. Simmons is the better player...not even sure he is the best in his class...Luca Doncic might be. Ayton is right there too.

 

[Carp]

I read earlier they maybe jumping LAL to secure Johnson.

So then LAL take Ball and Ainge walks away with Fultz and the LAL pick.

Ill be Rick Flair struttin' all around the house.

I assume you mean Jackson...who i would be thrilled with at 3, but not to move up to 1. That is bullshit anyways, Fultz is meeting with Philly today.

 

[Simpleton]

Michael Porter is not a generational talent and no way is he the best prospect since KAT. Simmons is the better player...not even sure he is the best in his class...Luca Doncic might be. Ayton is right there too.

Thanks for your opinion and reflexive defense of a guy who has yet to play in the NBA, but there's no way of knowing until he gets to college. We'll see what happens but Porter looks like potentially another Durant, and I suspect he'll be the clear cut number 1 this time next year.

Either way, my point stands about preferring two picks in next year's lottery stands, I think there will be at least 2, maybe 3 prospects next year that will be better than Fultz/Ball.

 

[Carp]

Thanks for your opinion and reflexive defense of a guy who has yet to play in the NBA, but there's no way of knowing until he gets to college. We'll see what happens but Porter looks like potentially another Durant, and I suspect he'll be the clear cut number 1 this time next year.

Either way, my point stands about preferring two picks in next year's lottery stands, I think there will be at least 2, maybe 3 prospects next year that will be better than Fultz/Ball.

Porter has not even played in college, yet totally acceptable to say he is a possible generational talent? Somehow though it is defensive for me to say Simmons is better. Well played.

 

[Carp]

Now I saw where supposedly the Lakers are offering Randle and #2 for 1.

 

[Deuce]

Now I saw where supposedly the Lakers are offering Randle and #2 for 1.

Let the bidding war begin! Damn you Danny Ainge for making this look so easy!

As an aside, Ruben Randle can suck a dick. No thanks.

 

[Deuce]

Per Woj, discussions have centered on Sixers sending 2017 No. 3, 2018 Lakers pick, and possibly 2021 1st -- including complicated protections.