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I'd only trade Thad for the right deal.

I'd trade Turner for just about anything.
Yeah...I value Thad much more than Turner, but this needs to turn over every rock. I had high hopes for last year...of course the Bynum deal, then bringing perimeter shooters in like Wright, Young, and Richardson. That whole plan has to be scraped and started over.
 

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I'm really surprised that Evan Turner didn't turn into more than what he is. I thought he'd at least be a Luol Deng level player.
 

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He can't shoot, that is the biggest issue. I thought he would blossom this year with Iggy gone, but he did not.
 

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Oh please.

If not for Ginobili, the series would've been over 2 days ago with Lebron catching shit for falling apart in crunch time again.

He got a 2nd chance and to his credit, he took advantage of it. But let's not act like he didn't choke that night when it mattered most.
So in your mind a triple double scoring 30 points is choking, and while were at it lets forget about the 3 he hit in the last seconds as well.

Lebron is the all-time leading scorer in games 7 in NBA history but I guess in your mind Kobe or Jordan never missed a shot in crunchtime.

The Hate is strong in this one.:lol
 
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After days of wrangling, negotiating and posturing, the Los Angeles Clippers have agreed in principle to a deal with the Celtics for coach Doc Rivers, pending league approval, according to sources.

Sources confirmed on Sunday that the Clippers will sign Rivers to a three-year, $21 million contract. They will send a 2015 first-round pick as compensation to the Celtics, who have agreed to release the coach from the three years, $21 million he has remaining on his deal with the club.

Sources close to the process told ESPN that the Clippers believe the deal with Rivers will clinch Chris Paul's signature on a new five-year max contract. Paul becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1.

Contrary to previous reports, according to league and team sources, the Celtics have been complicit all along in assisting Rivers make the switch from Boston to Los Angeles.

Although Danny Ainge, the Celtics' director of basketball operations, was initially irked that Rivers was lukewarm about returning to Boston, where a rebuilding process soon will be underway, team sources said he recognized the best way to accumulate the first-round draft picks he covets would be to relinquish his two most valued assets -- Rivers and Kevin Garnett. Since then, he and Rivers have been working side by side to secure a deal that is best for both parties, sources said.

Team sources confirmed Ainge also has been trying to secure a first-round pick for veteran Paul Pierce, who can be bought out by June 30 for $5 million. The Celtics have been unsuccessful thus far, leaving open the possibility they keep Pierce and his $15.3 million contract and attempt to deal him again at the trade deadline next winter, when teams historically look for veteran help and are willing to overpay.

Celtics ownership, which blanched at the thought of paying a coach $7 million a season for a team that will not be in contention for a division title, never mind an NBA title, is also on board with Rivers' departure, sources said.

League and teams sources also confirmed that for now, any deal involving Garnett and the Clippers is on hold in light of commissioner David Stern's objections to the appearance that the KG deal (for DeAndre Jordan) and Rivers were related.

One source with knowledge of the NBA's thinking told ESPN.com that the league does not intend to change its stance as expressed by Stern in multiple radio interviews Thursday, meaning that the league would view any subsequent trade agreement between the Celtics and Clippers involving Garnett to be part of the Rivers deal and thus in violation of league rules.
Team sources also indicated that Rivers is frustrated with the perception that he was the driving force behind the push to go to the Clippers, or that he was unwilling to coach the Celtics if Pierce and Garnett were not going to be on the roster.

"Doc never said any such thing," a source close to the coach said. "He just wasn't sure if he could rev himself up for years of rebuilding. He never issued any ultimatums about anyone."


The Celtics have a news conference scheduled for noon on Monday, where, sources said, Rivers is expected to explain his decision to leave Boston after nine seasons.

The Clippers always believed they would be able to land Rivers and never considered Friday's breakdown in talks to be anything more than a "cooling off" for both sides. Clippers president Andy Roeser and vice president of basketball operations Gary Sacks called Boston early Sunday morning to revisit the talks.

Yahoo! Sports and The Boston Globe earlier reported the Clippers and Celtics renewed talks for Rivers after hitting an impasse on Friday.

The Clippers were prepared to hire either Brian Shaw or Byron Scott on Monday if the deal for Rivers could not be worked out, sources said.

Information from ESPN.com's Marc Stein and Ramona Shelburne of ESPNLosAngeles.com was used in this report.

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Now go get Brian Shaw and start the rebuild.
 

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Brian Shaw is not going to the Celtics. Too many things going on in Boston to attract a good candidate like that.
 

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Brian Shaw is not going to the Celtics. Too many things going on in Boston to attract a good candidate like that.
I'm not sure about that.

He was thought to be a good candidate, but yet he keeps getting passed over for jobs over and over again. I don't think he's in any position to be turning down a job offer.

If the Celtics do offer it to him, he would be wise to take it.
 

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He'll get a job, but that is one he shouldn't take. That rebuild is going to take years and they don't really have to assets to expedite it. They can deal Rondo of course, but then he is the one good young player they have.
 
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They can rebuild rather quickly, especially if they trade/buyout Pierce. All their money is tied into 2 players. Rondo will need a max deal soon, but they can easily fit another marquee player or two around him to go along with what will certainly be a top draft pick next offseason.
 

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What marquee player are you looking at?
 
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What marquee player are you looking at?
If Rondo is traded, I'd look at John Wall. Otherwise, I'd look at Bledsoe, Derrick Favors, DeMarcus Cousins, Zach Randolph, Danny Granger, and Paul George.

Only Randolph and George would get a max unless some of those other guys really blow up next season. Add a mixture of them to a rookie like Wiggins or Marcus Smart and you've got something special.
 

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If Rondo is traded, I'd look at John Wall. Otherwise, I'd look at Bledsoe, Derrick Favors, DeMarcus Cousins, Zach Randolph, Danny Granger, and Paul George.

Only Randolph and George would get a max unless some of those other guys really blow up next season. Add a mixture of them to a rookie like Wiggins or Marcus Smart and you've got something special.
The only potential special combos there would be Wall or Cousins and Wiggins, and those two still have alot of growing up to do.

Randolph is too old, Granger is too old and plays the same position as Wiggins, George plays the same position, and Favors and Bledsoe are nowhere near the superstar category, nor will they be.

Greg Monroe might be a guy to look at if you're looking for young potential stars.
 

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The problem is that if Garnett and Pierce stick around they are going to have no shot at a top 5 pick.
 
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The problem is that if Garnett and Pierce stick around they are going to have no shot at a top 5 pick.
They aren't. Garnett is gone for sure. It's just a matter or whether Pierce will be. If this team goes into the season with a recovering Rondo and then Bass as their 2nd best player, that's a top 5 pick for sure.
 
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The only potential special combos there would be Wall or Cousins and Wiggins, and those two still have alot of growing up to do.

Randolph is too old, Granger is too old and plays the same position as Wiggins, George plays the same position, and Favors and Bledsoe are nowhere near the superstar category, nor will they be.

Greg Monroe might be a guy to look at if you're looking for young potential stars.
Wiggins is athletic enough to play a big 2 guard. I'd have no problem matching him with George on the wings.
 

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They aren't. Garnett is gone for sure. It's just a matter or whether Pierce will be. If this team goes into the season with a recovering Rondo and then Bass as their 2nd best player, that's a top 5 pick for sure.
Would you take the Mavs lottery pick this year for Rondo, or would you want more?
 

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They aren't. Garnett is gone for sure. It's just a matter or whether Pierce will be. If this team goes into the season with a recovering Rondo and then Bass as their 2nd best player, that's a top 5 pick for sure.
I am not so sure Garnett is gone. The league may not allow him to go to the Clips...I just don't see him wanting to play anywhere else, but I also don't see him walking away from his contract.
 
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