NBA Chatter Thread

[Texas Ace]

Apparently the Bulls wanted either the 3rd pick or Nets '18 pick from Boston for Butler, Ainge said no to both.

Surprising, but I think it shows what they think of Tatum.

I like Tatum, but seeing as it appears that the Cavs aren't going to acquire Butler (obviously) or George (it's safe to say that the Cavs are going to largely remain the same team they were this past season), I really think the Celtics should have given up one of those picks for Butler.

I think Butler, Heyward, and what they have in place now would've been enough to give the Cavs a run for their money next year.

It's not like they had to give up both picks, so you'd still have either Tatum and Butler or Butler and next year's sure-fire top 5 pick.

Why would you not do that deal?

Tatum is talented, but there's no guarantee he'll be great or even successful. Why not the already proven, 27 year old star SG?

 

[Deuce]

I like Tatum, but seeing as it appears that the Cavs aren't going to acquire Butler (obviously) or George (it's safe to say that the Cavs are going to largely remain the same team they were this past season), I really think the Celtics should have given up one of those picks for Butler.

I think Butler, Heyward, and what they have in place now would've been enough to give the Cavs a run for their money next year.

It's not like they had to give up both picks, so you'd still have either Tatum and Butler or Butler and next year's sure-fire top 5 pick.

Why would you not do that deal?

Tatum is talented, but there's no guarantee he'll be great or even successful. Why not the already proven, 27 year old star SG?

Because it's not a good deal if you think he's a 1 year rental.

Either Minnesota knows that and they are hoping that they can convince him later, or Thibs already keeps in touch with him and knows he can. Either way, you can't give up a premium resource for a 1 year player.

 

[Texas Ace]

Because it's not a good deal if you think he's a 1 year rental.

Either Minnesota knows that and they are hoping that they can convince him later, or Thibs already keeps in touch with him and knows he can. Either way, you can't give up a premium resource for a 1 year player.

That's fair, but I would've taken the chance because I would like my odds of him wanting to stay with a team that is setup to compete for a spot in the Finals for a very long time.

That team also happens to be arguably the NBA's most historic and prestigious, so I personally would've pulled the trigger and like my chances to convince him to stay.

 

[Simpleton]

Butler has two years left on his deal, PG is the rental.

 

[1bigfan13]

Surprised this thread has been dead with all the big news that's been reported today.

CP3 to the Rockets and Phil Jackson finally being pushed out in NY.

Also, PG13 to Boston or Houston seem like legit possibilities.

 

[Deuce]

Surprised this thread has been dead with all the big news that's been reported today.

CP3 to the Rockets and Phil Jackson finally being pushed out in NY.

Also, PG13 to Boston or Houston seem like legit possibilities.

PG13 to Boston gaining more and more traction. Ainge seems convinced he can resign him.

 

[Simpleton]

Surprised this thread has been dead with all the big news that's been reported today.

CP3 to the Rockets and Phil Jackson finally being pushed out in NY.

Also, PG13 to Boston or Houston seem like legit possibilities.

The interesting thing is CP3 didn't sign an extension but instead opted in to the last year of his deal, meaning he'll be a FA again next year, just in time to join LeBron somewhere.

 

[1bigfan13]

Paul George to OKC....I did not see that coming.

Next year should be fun.

Even though it's likely a one year rental it at least gets us out from under the Oladipo contract.

Now we just need to get rid of either Adams or Kanter's salary.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I'm still struggling to understand why Indiana would do this deal.

 

[Deuce]

I'm still struggling to understand why Indiana would do this deal.

I think his marketability was small. A one year rental, so they can't command a ton. Boston had interest, but they're waiting to see how the Hayward signing pans out first. If they get him, they either lessen their offer or withdraw it altogether. LAL probably offers little since they have crap to offer and feel they have the advantage of signing him long term.

At least with the OKC offer, they get a solid 2 guard locked down long term that their fans will remember from his college days and a solid big man prospect. Not great, but decent.

 

[Texas Ace]

ESPN said that Boston offered 3 1st round draft picks and 2 starters on draft night.

If true, how the hell did Indiana pass that up to take OKC's offer?

 

[1bigfan13]

ESPN said that Boston offered 3 1st round draft picks and 2 starters on draft night.

If true, how the hell did Indiana pass that up to take OKC's offer?

I have no idea. Boston's offer seems like the easy choice to make.

My only thought is maybe they were trying to play hardball during the draft, thinking they could get a better offer. When that didn't happen they had to settle for the OKC offer.

 

[Deuce]

ESPN said that Boston offered 3 1st round draft picks and 2 starters on draft night.

If true, how the hell did Indiana pass that up to take OKC's offer?

All the 1sts offered were there own, so they expect to be late. I guess the thought of late picks combined with Crowder and someone else isn't as good.

 

[Deuce]

Boston had made two strong offers, one at February's trade deadline (four first-round picks, including what became the No. 1 pick) and again at last month's draft (three first-round picks and two starters), according to league sources. Instead, Indiana moved George for two players (Victor Oladipo and Domantas Sabonis) and no picks. Many in the Celtics organization appeared as perplexed as the rest of the league by Indy's decision.

lol @ Indy passing on that deadline deal.

 

[Genghis Khan]

If that's true, and honestly I'm skeptical, but if that's true then Indiana is straight up retarded.

 

[Genghis Khan]

There's some speculation that Indiana didn't want George in the East, but if that's what this was about then it's a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Texas Ace]

There's some speculation that Indiana didn't want George in the East, but if that's what this was about then it's a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yup.

A friend of mine told me he thought it was either a case of them trying to screw him over or them not wanting him in the east.

I told him it didn't matter because in either scenario, they were screwing their own selves over.

Baffling.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

There's some speculation that Indiana didn't want George in the East, but if that's what this was about then it's a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yeah, it's not like Indiana is going to be competing for a championship any time soon. By the time they are, who knows where George will be.

 

[Smitty]

Boston had the opportunity to vault into elite status with a trade for Butler or George and they passed. I think they will regret it.

You have like 4 top-5 picks. Refusing to give one up for Butler or George is pretty much the height of stupidity.

 

[Smitty]

And as an aside, I'm more convinced than ever that GM-ing is basically about being part of a good ol' boys network; and good GMing is mostly about being willing and able to make the calls and get creative.

There are any number of teams that could have beaten that deal. There are any number of teams that could have beaten the offer for Chris Paul too. Yet Morey and Ainge are always the guys who are at the centerpiece of these deals.

They are the only ones willing to actually put in what I'm sure isn't exactly exhaustive groundwork. Paxon and Foreman and most of the other GMs league wide are just lazy.