Garrett Watch Thread...

[Cowboysrock55]

Blame Irvin. His troubles made drafting Moss too risky.

Jerry loved him so I blame everybody else.

 

[yimyammer]

At the time I was mixed but it’s not clear that he would have had a good career here with the path the franchise took. I consider Moss as maybe the best reciever to play the game. The hands were great, he could jump like Superman and has the second start speed like no other.

things were a mess in Dallas at that time, coming here could have ruined Moss. Chris Carter was a great mentor for him in Minnesota

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Moss

things were a mess in Dallas at that time, coming here could have ruined Moss. Chris Carter was a great mentor for him in Minnesota

Moss had a special physical talent. He was unguardable. Made Culpepper a stud.

 

[yimyammer]

Moss

Moss had a special physical talent. He was unguardable. Made Culpepper a stud.

not denying that at all, I just think he would have floundered here with all the chaos that was going on and jeri running the show

still wish they had drafted him so we could know one way or the other

 

[Sheik]

I seriously doubt Moss would have had the impact in Dallas he had in Minny.

This franchise would have fucked it up somehow.

 

[boozeman]

Blame Irvin. His troubles made drafting Moss too risky.

It was probably just as much about Lett getting popped with a suspension right before the draft too.

 

[boozeman]

From Nick Eatman's book If These Walls Could Talk...

 

[yimyammer]

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[L.T. Fan]

Blame Irvin. His troubles made drafting Moss too risky.

That’s the nuts and bolts of it. There was a lot of pressure on Jones to not take him from the locals because he was deemed a troublemaker.

 

[1bigfan13]

We shouldn’t be surprised. This the Garrett way. This has been the story of his season and his career. He’s excellent at long-term planning and awful at short-term planning.

He’s a thinker, a coach with a big brain who likes to work methodically through problems to find solutions. The problem, of course, is that you don’t have time in an NFL game or season to have think tanks.

This statement by JJT is spot on. If I made a top 5 list of my complaints about Garrett, his inability to make adjustments in the moment would be in that top 5.

This is also a reason why there are so many instances of the offense being out of balance. E.g., a one score game where the RBs are averaging over 5 ypc yet the offense inexplicably goes into pass heavy mode, resulting in 5 or fewer run plays being called the entire 2nd half. Yeah, we've seen that story play out a time or two under Garrett.

One of the absolute basic fundamentals of being a coach is having the ability to perform short-term planning and make adjustments on the fly. It shouldn't take having to "watch the tape" and "break down the film" --two of Garrett's canned responses when questioned about his lack of adjustments-- to understand that abandoning an effective run game in a one possession game is a bad idea.

Competent coaches who can actually think on their feet communicate to the OC to continue running the ball. They don't wait to address it after the game. They try to fix the easily correctable issue immediately rather than foolishly allowing the flawed game play to continue and potentially cost themselves the game.

 

[Cotton]

 

[p1_]

I agree with Troy

 

[Genghis Khan]

Yep

 

[NoDak]

If all it takes to save his job is get to the NFCCG, I hope we either lose the division, (preferable) or get smashed in the WC round.

We've all been witness to his "coaching" for the past decade. Being lucky enough to catch lightning in a bottle after a massive let down of a year shouldn't be enough to save this bum.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Funny, he says he would listen if Dallas calls, Washington though and he is done coaching.

 

[bbgun]

Meyer is like Jimmy - gets antsy and never stays in one place for too long. The Skins are a long-term project, so a "ready to win now" team like Dallas makes much more sense.

 

[Smitty]

I wonder how this compares to other coaches. Presumably nearly everyone fares worse against teams with winning records than they do against teams with losing records. The question is, what's the imbalance here compared to other coaches?

 

[Cotton]

I wonder how this compares to other coaches. Presumably nearly everyone fares worse against teams with winning records than they do against teams with losing records. The question is, what's the imbalance here compared to other coaches?

Ask and ye shall receive...

 

[Smitty]

I always thought it was telling when you look at our record those years surrounding Gailey.

1997 - 6-10 (Switzer)
1998 - 10-6 (Gailey) / playoffs
1999 - 8-8 (Gailey) / playoffs
2000 - 5-11 (Campo)
2001 - 5-11 (Campo)
2002 - 5-11 (Campo)


Gailey wasn't the best coach ever or anything, but he was clearly coaching up those teams.

It's also a testament to the difference good coaching can make.

I don't know if he was coaching them up that much, but he certainly wasn't the main problem. The 6-10 episode with Switzer was just him being a Wade Phillips-like dumpster fire and not caring anymore. He had his ring, he had his money, he was gonna eat hot dogs on the sideline and not give a shit.

The 1998 and 1999 seasons were kinda "pars" for the course -- you still had Hall of Fame talents in Aikman, Smith, and Irvin, you supplemented on offense with some juice from Rocket Ismail and Chris Warren, but the OL and the defense was springing leaks. In 1998, Gailey was a bit of fresh air over Switzer, but even so, all he could coax out of the Triplets was a 10-6 run and a second round loss to Carolina. When Irvin and Ismail both went out in 1999, you saw the offense sputter and the team was barely hanging on.

I mean, sure, he coached 'em up in comparison to Switzer's final year, but I'm not handing Gailey any accolades. That being said, he was... fine.

Then by 2000, Aikman was done, Irvin was gone, Emmitt had pretty much nothing left, and the team was just finished. Especially with no QB, 5-11 was all they could muster. Campo sucked as a head coach, but not necessarily because he couldn't coach defense. He was just completely outclassed as a head man on a team that desperately needed a rebuild and a new direction. He was a yes man and a direction follower, not the man needed to drag that team out of its funk.

FWIW I actually think Garrett wouldn't be so bad as a rebuild coach. As the JJT article hinted at earlier in this thread, "long term" is his strength. Game management on the fly is not. I think that's fair. Which is why I could see him being desirable and actually having some success if he went to NY and coached the Giants.