Red Turd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Sean Payton.
I'm not saying they are anything close to equal.
If Payton came here the results would be dramatically different, trying to argue otherwise is just retarded.
You don't know that. The Saints are not an untalented team and yet they are not compiling Super Bowl after Super Bowl. Dallas has Jerry stink all over it. Any coach here is getting a negative factor applied to their talents.
I'm not saying a Payton tenure would be "no better' than Garrett. Just that I wouldn't be surprised if Payton's tenure would end up being looked at as a disappointment. I also don't forget about how everyone hated him when he actually was here.
You say "talent has to play on Sundays", talent has to be COACHED to have success, and that's why we fail every year.
A ridiculous oversimplification which is the reason these endless Garrett debates have to happen again and again. No, that's not why we fail "every year."