Election Chatter Thread...

[Cotton]

So what has he done that makes him a threat to the Constitution? I'd love to hear actual concrete reasons, because I never do. It just seems to be one of those things that people repeat without basis.

Exactly my original point about having heard it 50,000 times. They say it, and have literally nothing to back it up. Except like Russia and stuff.

 

[Smitty]

Putin is not a sworn enemy of the United States, simple as that. I doubt you can even sufficiently articulate what interests he has that are counter to ours. That's not to be insulting. I mean, it's a complex mess that is much more convoluted than "Russia and Putin bad." Anything they do to us you can rest assured that we are doing to them in return. It's part of the geopolitical dance we are dancing with other major powers but it falls far short of "sworn enemy." China fits that bill way better and I don't even feel that way about them frankly.

Even so, again, there has been nothing illegal or even truly improper proven by anyone. Collusion? After a years-long investigation that was begun illegally when the Obama administration fabricated evidence and essentially lied to a federal judge on a warrant request - this is a fact, not a conspiracy theory by the way, see here and here and here - and when Hillary paid off a spy working for a foreign government to obtain dirt on a political enemy when she was running for President and did in fact wield a lot of power, they actually found, you guessed it, zero - ZERO - evidence of collusion or any traitorous or even improper dealings with Russia. The extent of their elbow rubbing ended with "lack of strong denunciations on Twitter," and that was absolutely the end of it. A couple other guys cheated on their taxes and were prosecuted while the Feds - government employees like Peter Strzok who were on the record as politically biased and made statements like "we will never let him become President," - were in the process of sticking their flashlights up everyone in the administration's assholes.

The stong-arming thing again was already addressed before.

So again.... no..... not a despot. Especially in light of his drastic reductions in the power of the federal government and thus his ability to be, like, despotic by controlling people.

I reiterate my question posed to you... you asked how would everyone react if Hillary did it. Well, how did the world react when Obama did it? When Hillary did it? Don't cop out and hide behind "but she wasn't President." She's a former first lady, Senator, Secretary of State, and Presidential Nominee, so spare me. And here's the thing: SHE ACTUALLY COLLUDED. Obama ACTUALLY lied to courts to illegally open an investigation a political adversary. Trump, after all those investigations, actually did none of those things.

So again you please tell me who is the despot.

 

[Cotton]

It's not so much that he has taken literal legal action to undermine the Constitution because that obviously hasn't happened but he's shown no respect or regard for the country's institutions or what it stands for.

I mean, look no further than this embarrassing display where with no concrete evidence whatsoever he's calling the election a fraud, stolen, and so forth. He's lashed out against the intelligence community, to this day refusing to believe them and preferring to take the word of a sworn enemy in Putin. He seems to think he can use the levers of power to benefit himself when he attempted to literally blackmail a foreign ally by withholding aid so that they'd open an investigation into Biden. He regularly calls the media the "enemy of the people" (but only those who don't support him of course), which is the type of language used by authoritarians for the last 50-100 years. Taking advantage of social unrest to divide the country (extra bonus if there are racial undertones!) in order to scare people into voting for him using himself as some sort of beacon for "law and order". "Joking" about how he deserves to be President for 12 years instead of 8 because of some contrived nonsense about Obama "spying" on his campaign.

I realize that almost everybody in this thread is going to scoff at all of this and brush it off as nothing but CNN, leftist, socialist fear-mongering (I literally haven't watched CNN in months aside from the few days around the election to get updates), and that's fine, but I surely wonder how you'd all react if Hillary was President and choosing to publicly side with Russia or attempting to strongarm a foreign ally into opening an investigation into Nikki Haley or whoever was running against her in 2020.

1. None of that is unconstitutional.

2. About 95% of that is not true.

3. The media is the enemy of the people.

 

[Smitty]

Exactly my original point about having heard it 50,000 times. They say it, and have literally nothing to back it up. Except like Russia and stuff.

His answer was, and I'm paraphrasing, that he called the press the enemy of the people on Twitter and also joked on twitter that he should be President for 12 years instead of the allowed 8.

I mean, he's a jerk.

But that's not a Constitutional threat.

You know what kind of would be a Constitutional threat?

Threatening to add and appoint as many Supreme Court Justices as needed until you can have enough that are hand picked by you to do whatever you want, who will disregard what the Constitution says and rubber stamp your agenda.

I'd love to hear Simp's thoughts on that very valid Constitutional threat. He doesn't seem concerned that Biden and the left is chomping at the bit to appoint extra judges for the express purpose of outnumbering the 9 currently Constitutionally appointed judges, but instead is ultra worried about twitter implications.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Thanks Smitty and Iam. I didn't have the strength.

 

[Cotton]

Again, the media is the enemy of the people.

 

[shane]

But what happens when half the country doesn't care if it's fair? They don't care one bit about the will of the people. They only care about their party having power.

I just hope those Georgia Senate runoffs are legitimate, but I have little faith they will be... even with a month's notice to make sure they are.

We are in a situation where over half the country is soulless human garbage who will support anything their masters tell them on the idiot box.

Can't have a functional nation under these conditions, with so many cowardly malleable individuals who are little more than worthless flesh sacks.

 

[shane]

So let me get this straight, now it's completely normal and fine for the Senate to block Supreme Court nominees for however long is required to get a nominee they like?

So if a justice died in 6 months it'd be fine for a Republican Senate to hold up the nomination until a Republican President is in office (4 years? 8 years?) and vice versa?

That's a slippery and very short-sighted slope to go down.

And yea, please run someone in 2024 who isn't described as anti-American by his own Defense Secretary, that'd go a long way towards "uneducated, gullible voters" not turning out for a "rock star popularity contest", or as others might call it, choosing democracy and what this country stands for over a wannabe authoritarian despot who has literally no respect for the principles this country was built on.

You're a textbook example of the phenomenon I just described.

 

[NoDak]

So what has he done that makes him a threat to the Constitution? I'd love to hear actual concrete reasons, because I never do. It just seems to be one of those things that people repeat without basis.

You weren't expecting an actual answer, were you?

I see you got a long drawn out "he was mean", tho.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[shane]

The rape of our nation is at hand, and they expect us to sit back and take it.

 

[Cotton]

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Cotton]

My question is, how does this person know this? If it's public knowledge, then this should be an easy decision for the courts there.

 

[Angrymesscan]

My question is, how does this person know this? If it's public knowledge, then this should be an easy decision for the courts there.

And should be easy information to find right?
Or maybe it just isn’t true...

 

[Angrymesscan]

Again, the media is the enemy of the people.

Give me a break, where did these numbers come from?
And misinformation (which this appears to be) is the enemy of the people, not the media itself. The media is actually a very important part of a democracy, but disinformation and misinformation are deadly to it.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]