2025 Training Camp Thread…

[Simpleton]

Yeah I was listening to a podcast and Voch was talking about how good he has looked. I have no idea, we just don't see enough of this stuff to really get any good idea.

I heard that too, and I think I've seen that improvement at times as well, but getting beaten so cleanly on almost a daily basis (and only within videos that are about 20 minutes and maybe 20-25 reps per day) is not a great sign.

He's seemed fine against Turner, maybe against Kneeland (although I saw Kneeland beat him pretty clean on day 1 I think), but Fowler and especially Eze were giving him the business yesterday.

Obviously too early to draw any conclusions, I'm just saying that if he's consistently getting beat clean like that in 6 weeks he's not going to be starting much past the first few games.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Right, not sure if Voch actually knows anything or if he's just a YouTube guy with a big following. He claims he's been studying the trenches closely but maybe he doesn't know what he's looking at.

On another note, BS gave a small prop to Mafah yesterday and admitted he hadn't said anything about him before because, he said, he didn't see him in the spring. Was he hurt enough to not practice in OTAs? If so, didn't remember that.

Also, one more thing, I think Spann-Ford is officially in that category of "if everyone says someone is excelling they probably are." Pretty much everyone says he's the TE2 now even though Booze's fave TE hasn't done anything wrong.

 

[1bigfan13]

I do agree this is likely him basically "sitting in" rather than a legit injury.

But there's certainly a "chance" he's having a genuine health issue. He's an undersized guy going up against behemoths a thousand times a year.

He's going to have problems stemming from that eventually.

I'm 100% certain this instance is contract related and not a real injury.

This has been happening every year with players seeking new contracts. Under the current CBA players are getting fined $40K-$50K every day they miss practice. That money isn't waivable like it used to be. Therefore "sitting in" and feigning soft tissue injuries is the new loophole.

 

[Simpleton]

Right, not sure if Voch actually knows anything or if he's just a YouTube guy with a big following. He claims he's been studying the trenches closely but maybe he doesn't know what he's looking at.

On another note, BS gave a small prop to Mafah yesterday and admitted he hadn't said anything about him before because, he said, he didn't see him in the spring. Was he hurt enough to not practice in OTAs? If so, didn't remember that.

Also, one more thing, I think Spann-Ford is officially in that category of "if everyone says someone is excelling they probably are." Pretty much everyone says he's the TE2 now even though Booze's fave TE hasn't done anything wrong.

I heard that also about Spann-Ford, I'll be curious to see what it looks like in the preseason. He might be our best blocking TE so if he can just be passable in the passing game I could easily see him being our TE2 this year and maybe even the starter next year.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I'm 100% certain this instance is contract related and not a real injury.

This has been happening every year with players seeking new contracts. Under the current CBA players are getting fined $40K-$50K every day they miss practice. That money isn't waivable like it used to be. Therefore "sitting in" and feigning soft tissue injuries is the new loophole.

I think it's pretty widely known that this is what is going on with Parsons. He is holding out. Just in a wink wink form that everyone acknowledges.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Right, not sure if Voch actually knows anything or if he's just a YouTube guy with a big following. He claims he's been studying the trenches closely but maybe he doesn't know what he's looking at.

On another note, BS gave a small prop to Mafah yesterday and admitted he hadn't said anything about him before because, he said, he didn't see him in the spring. Was he hurt enough to not practice in OTAs? If so, didn't remember that.

Also, one more thing, I think Spann-Ford is officially in that category of "if everyone says someone is excelling they probably are." Pretty much everyone says he's the TE2 now even though Booze's fave TE hasn't done anything wrong.

Not sure but he is also there in person watching the practices. So he probably has a better big picture of what is going on than we do. The guy does do some in depth film study stuff on his YouTube so he isn't a total casual youtuber when it comes to the Oline.

But the pads aren't even on, so I also think too much can be read into these practices.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I heard that also about Spann-Ford, I'll be curious to see what it looks like in the preseason. He might be our best blocking TE so if he can just be passable in the passing game I could easily see him being our TE2 this year and maybe even the starter next year.

Yep, they say he's improved greatly catching the ball.

Said it before, but I really wish we'd run more multiple TE sets. You say you want to run the ball more and be more physical? Our WR3 isn't great anyway, so why not get a 270 lb blocking TE out there?

 

[boozeman]

They will not have a scrimmage but the practice will be aired on Sunday afternoon.

 

[mcnuttz]

My friends made up a death poll a couple of years ago, picking famous people that will die next. One of the assfucks

Awaiting part 2 of this post...

 

[Rev]

Awaiting part 2 of this post...

2233 bringing in a new posting style. The cliffhanger post.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yep, they say he's improved greatly catching the ball.

Said it before, but I really wish we'd run more multiple TE sets. You say you want to run the ball more and be more physical? Our WR3 isn't great anyway, so why not get a 270 lb blocking TE out there?

I'm only in favor of the multiple TE sets if you have more than one TE that is a bad ass blocker or badass receiver. Otherwise you might as well have a WR out there and a 190 pound DB covering him as opposed to extra LBer's beating your shitty blocking TE or your slow ass TE.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm only in favor of the multiple TE sets if you have more than one TE that is a bad ass blocker or badass receiver. Otherwise you might as well have a WR out there and a 190 pound DB covering him as opposed to extra LBer's beating your shitty blocking TE or your slow ass TE.

The Hyphen is a bad ass blocker, though.

Of course a lot depends on the weekly matchup, but I think you put your best players on the field. And I think you can make a case that our second TE is better than our third WR. But then I don't like Tolbert much, especially as a blocker.

Probably doesn't matter, wouldn't be surprised if it's Mingo because Jerry paid up for him and that's that.

 

[Simpleton]

I'm only in favor of the multiple TE sets if you have more than one TE that is a bad ass blocker or badass receiver. Otherwise you might as well have a WR out there and a 190 pound DB covering him as opposed to extra LBer's beating your shitty blocking TE or your slow ass TE.

I generally agree, although if the run game scheme is close to what I saw in Arizona (and based on what I've seen in the few cut-up's so far it will be) going 2 TE or 1 TE/1 FB will make more sense in certain situations.

I say that because I think we're going to see a lot of TE's in motion across the formation who will effectively be pulling blockers, they'll pull across the formation tight to the LOS and are able to stay in motion until the ball is snapped as long as they're going parallel to the LOS, and then they'll have some forward momentum to kick out DE's/OLB's at the end of the LOS.

If they keep Luepke I think he'd be a good fit for that as well.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I say that because I think we're going to see a lot of TE's in motion across the formation who will effectively be pulling blockers, they'll pull across the formation tight to the LOS and are able to stay in motion until the ball is snapped as long as they're going parallel to the LOS, and then they'll have some forward momentum to kick out DE's/OLB's at the end of the LOS.

One of the observers said just that -- that there was a lot more motion this camp but not so much the WRs, that there was a ton of TEs or Luepke in motion.

 

[2233boys]

My friends made up a death poll a couple of years ago, picking famous people that will die next. One of the assfucks

part 2

They picked Betty white, she immediately died. We should do one for Jerry

 

[Simpleton]

One of the observers said just that -- that there was a lot more motion this camp but not so much the WRs, that there was a ton of TEs or Luepke in motion.

Yep, and I think we're going to see a lot of that in the running game. There has to be more creativity of course, but that particular wrinkle is definitely an important piece to a more modern running game scheme.

 

[Genghis Khan]

 

[Rev]

Good news for the linemen and Genghis Khan

 

[Simpleton]

Good, I hope it gives them an extended look at a guy like Thomas who I'm hoping might be able to replace him in the next year or two.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good news for the linemen and Genghis Khan

Yeah, I don't know who he's trying to fool with that sad emoji...