2025 Season | Week 3 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys vs. Bears | 9/21/2025

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I’d really love to know how in the fuck this team over values the talent year in, year out.

Outside of the GM being a complete fucking dip shit along with his son- I guess everybody is just paid so well in the hierarchy of management that they’ve just learned to keep their mouth shut and collect a paycheck.
Yeah, it's that they know Jerry is the boss. I doubt it had to be spelled out for them, they just all know.

Players know it too, which only makes things worse.
 

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True, but the QB wouldn't have all day to pick them apart.
They'd probably just double him. So three WRs wide open instead of four.
 

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Dont need the study. The numbers were already provided but they did it anyways.
It doesn’t really matter about Micah. Besides being a guy who was really playing out of position, good teams can overcome a trade like that if the defensive side of the ball has been given even a minor amount of attention.

The problem is that the defensive line has been ignored for years for whatever reason and really only had Micah as it’s A player and everyone around him was a C or D player. Mazi is a bust. Lawrence might have passed for a B player but he was injured at inopportune times and not available when we really needed him.
 

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They'd probably just double him. So three WRs wide open instead of four.
Yeah, the gaping middle has been the honey hole the last 2 weeks...it's maddening.
 

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Micah wouldn't change the mess of DBs having no idea where to be or what to do.


But if he could decrease the time the qb is just standing back there, ordering shit off of Amazon, and going through his reads twice, it might make them look a little better.
 

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There's also the possibility that we whiffed on THREE second round DEs.

Retard Sam has minimal pass rush moves and his football speed doesn't match his timed 40.

Kneeland looks the part of playing hard per his scouting reports, but results not great so far.

EZ is a 3-4 outside LBer who will never be a full time DE in a 4-3.
Osa and Ez are not guys we want playing on 1st down, and Ez is also absolutely too thin to win fist in the dirt head on vs OT's.

Kneeland looks like a 3 down DE, but it doesn't look like he's special, maybe just good. Clark is a 3-down keeper, though we need to find his long term teammate and eventual replacement.

Williams has his moments, but with him it's about consistency. He still hasn't lost all his knucklehead.

Ideally Osa, Clark, and another DE would be ends in a 3-4 rotation around still another younger and stronger 0 technique or similar type player. Ez, Williams, and Kneeland could rotate off ball but close in to rush on passing downs as Will and Sam. Loofah and Overshown could play inside at the same time depending on pass rush or run stopping need.

That would be a strong, versatile front that could disguise a lot and still keep our 2nd rounders effective in the face of 300+ linemen run-blocking straight at them or engulfing them on passing downs.

It also means finding two more linemen-- not impossible by any stretch.
 

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Osa and Ez are not guys we want playing on 1st down, and Ez is also absolutely too thin to win fist in the dirt head on vs OT's.

Kneeland looks like a 3 down DE, but it doesn't look like he's special, maybe just good. Clark is a 3-down keeper, though we need to find his long term teammate and eventual replacement.

Williams has his moments, but with him it's about consistency. He still hasn't lost all his knucklehead.

Ideally Osa, Clark, and another DE would be ends in a 3-4 rotation around still another younger and stronger 0 technique or similar type player. Ez, Williams, and Kneeland could rotate off ball but close in to rush on passing downs as Will and Sam. Loofah and Overshown could play inside at the same time depending on pass rush or run stopping need.

That would be a strong, versatile front that could disguise a lot and still keep our 2nd rounders effective in the face of 300+ linemen run-blocking straight at them or engulfing them on passing downs.

It also means finding two more linemen-- not impossible by any stretch.
Not impossible for other teams. We have to luck into them (Parsons draft as we wanted Surtain and Horn) or throw in an aging vet as a kicker. I would put that on the impossible list for this organization.
 

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He's also the safety so he IS the help.

WTF is he doing there?
You'll hear nothing but praise about Wilson either. No plan to replace him. No suggestion to fix it. We will just keep rolling with these players who do not know what the fuck they are doing. This is a coaching problem. Either because they are standing by the players who don't know what the fuck they are doing. Or because they aren't teaching the players what the fuck they are supposed to do. Hell at least run around and cover someone. At least make it look like you're putting in effort.
 

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But if he could decrease the time the qb is just standing back there, ordering shit off of Amazon, and going through his reads twice, it might make them look a little better.

Right, and all the attention he would draw from blockers would open up all those currently underperforming DEs.

It still wouldn't be wonderful but it's crazy to think he wouldn't help quite a bit.
 
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