2025 OTAs and Minicamp Thread...

boozeman

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It is pretty easy to tell we have ourselves a little Pete Carroll wannabe.

I will say he is a departure from the frumpy Fat Mike.
 

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something tells me he's not an "asthma field" kinda guy
 

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something tells me he's not an "asthma field" kinda guy
It works for Pete Carrol but we have also seen the opposite work for some all time great coaches. I guarantee Bill Parcells wasn't worried about his players families and taking them all out to dinner in small groups. Bill isn't/wasn't that type of coach either.

Jimmy was sort of an interesting mixture of the two though. He knew how to be a buddy when he needed to be and he knew how to be a hardass that would cut some scrub on the spot.

But it is a different world we live in these days. You now have players making more money in college football than they get on their rookie contracts. You have these guys getting trophies their entire lives while winning or losing. They have technology that make their every thought out in the public for everyone to see. So maybe Schotty is the type of coach you need for todays NFL. I think he is at least authentic about it. He doesn't come off as fake like a Jason Garrett always did. He doesn't come of a bit lazy and standoffish the way that McCarthy did. Now we will see if Schotty can balance the caring side with making sure the players don't take advantage of him.

I don't think Schotty is much of an X and O's guy but that's ok. I'm hoping he brought in the right assistant coaches so that he doesn't have to be. In terms of managing the players and roster so far it looks good. But we have yet to see what happens when the bullets start flying and players react after wins and losses.
 

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He doesn't come off as fake like a Jason Garrett always did. He doesn't come of a bit lazy and standoffish the way that McCarthy did. Now we will see if Schotty can balance the caring side with making sure the players don't take advantage of him.
I don't think we've seen enough of him to conclude that he's better or worse than any of those guys. He's a cipher at this point.
 

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It works for Pete Carrol but we have also seen the opposite work for some all time great coaches. I guarantee Bill Parcells wasn't worried about his players families and taking them all out to dinner in small groups. Bill isn't/wasn't that type of coach either.

Jimmy was sort of an interesting mixture of the two though. He knew how to be a buddy when he needed to be and he knew how to be a hardass that would cut some scrub on the spot.

But it is a different world we live in these days. You now have players making more money in college football than they get on their rookie contracts. You have these guys getting trophies their entire lives while winning or losing. They have technology that make their every thought out in the public for everyone to see. So maybe Schotty is the type of coach you need for todays NFL. I think he is at least authentic about it. He doesn't come off as fake like a Jason Garrett always did. He doesn't come of a bit lazy and standoffish the way that McCarthy did. Now we will see if Schotty can balance the caring side with making sure the players don't take advantage of him.

I don't think Schotty is much of an X and O's guy but that's ok. I'm hoping he brought in the right assistant coaches so that he doesn't have to be. In terms of managing the players and roster so far it looks good. But we have yet to see what happens when the bullets start flying and players react after wins and losses.
If you look around the league over the last decade or so there aren't many of the gruff, taskmaster types who are at the top of the game anymore.

You have Reid, McVay, Shannahan, Campbell, LaFleur, Sirianni (I guess), so on and so forth.

The closest might be Tomlin and McDermott, but I don't think either of them are anywhere near the type of personalities that Parcells/Belichick were.

That doesn't mean those coaches aren't demanding discipline or attention to detail, they definitely are, but I think the Parcells/Belichick demeanor is kind of dead for a variety of reasons.
 

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I don't think we've seen enough of him to conclude that he's better or worse than any of those guys. He's a cipher at this point.
Absolutely. There is very little we can judge the guy on right now. Coaching is so much more than just general personality. And he has had to deal with zero adversity at this point. Again, we won't have any idea until the games start. Hell we can't even really just him on his football intelligence yet because he hasn't even been a play caller in so long.
 

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Really though, that was one of the luckiest/flukiest Super Bowl wins ever. And it's not sour grapes or my being a "hater" or any of that. I give them credit for that year they beat Belichick and Brady with a backup QB. But this time, the AFC was the far superior conference, the Chiefs barely skated by, taking out the better teams, then laid a huge egg in the biggest game. It gets old reading how much they dominated when KC simply didn't show up, just like us against Green Bay. That happens in this league, it's just too bad it happened right then.
 
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