2025 Draft Chatter Thread

[Chocolate Lab]

Was it an attitude thing or a physical thing? I'm not worried about Coopers attitude, I think his personality gets misunderstood by some. If it's a physical thing then he could just be done. But that's a quick drop of the cliff.

I don't know honestly, I just heard Sturm talking about that during the draft.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don't know honestly, I just heard Sturm talking about that during the draft.

I mean it looks like he was productive when they threw him the ball. High yards per catch and a high completion percentage. Now that can be deceiving when a guy only has 250 yards with the team. But those are generally good signs? Which is why I would roll the dice. Plus I think Dak loves him. So chemistry won't be an issue like he may have had as a problem in Buffalo.

Keenan Allen by comparison only had 10 ypc and a lower completion percentage. Which are generally bad signs for an aging receiver. Of course the QB in Buffalo is better than the QB in Chicago.

 

[Simpleton]

Why do we do that with sixth and seventh round picks at WR but not other positions? No one is sitting here going, we need to see if Asim Richards or Nathan Thomas can step up at LT or RG. No one is worried about progress stoppers for Liufau or Clark. No those positions we go, that's a concern and we address them with premium resources in the draft or sign guys.

But at WR it's well, every good receiver went right before our picks. But hey this sixth/seventh round pick needs a chance.

Probably because they're paying Lamb so much, which is ridiculous, but hey.

 

[data]

Why do we do that with sixth and seventh round picks at WR but not other positions? No one is sitting here going, we need to see if Asim Richards or Nathan Thomas can step up at LT or RG. No one is worried about progress stoppers for Liufau or Clark. No those positions we go, that's a concern and we address them with premium resources in the draft or sign guys.

But at WR it's well, every good receiver went right before our picks. But hey this sixth/seventh round pick needs a chance.

I’d love to see the data on this, but I’m guessing that above-average WRs, say Top 50, are comprised of an outlying higher percentage of Round 1-3 compared to LBers, DTs, OL.

 

[Genghis Khan]

It would have helped if Cooper had a real QB in Buffalo.

 

[shoop]

I just read where Tyler Warren and Kyle McCord got prank calls on their draft-only phone, too, but of course that wasn't any big deal.

To be fair Warren went 14 not in the 5th round. McCord on the other hand… It is silly for them to make this huge deal over sanders and ignore others in the same situation.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Probably because they're paying Lamb so much, which is ridiculous, but hey.

The Bucs used a first round pick on their third WR while paying 2 guys. The Jags traded a first to move up to get their #2 WR. The Bears burned a high second round pick on a roster with a highly drafted receiver and a highly paid receiver.

The Cowboys have 1 WR on the roster of any significance and it's like, well we will just have to get by with guys who were barely drafted. You're just going to have to develop them. It's crazy to me. But it's the same every year, well we had WR's they just went before our picks. But yet somehow OL is always BEST AVAILABLE! I'm all about picking BPA but when you stack your board a certain way year in and year out it tells me that you're just not evaluating some positions correctly. In the same way that a QB who is a good starter is more valuable than a probowl center. You sort of have to consider the positions when you're ranking these players. Obviously the rest of the NFL teams value WR more which is why you never see Dallas having a WR as BPA.

The two times we have taking a WR in the first. Lamb and Dez, they were guys who dropped massively on draft day. It's like the only way Dallas will take a WR is if there is some massive drop. But taking a guard 10 spots higher than most had him is a walk in the park.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I’d love to see the data on this, but I’m guessing that above-average WRs, say Top 50, are comprised of an outlying higher percentage of Round 1-3 compared to LBers, DTs, OL.

This is absolutely the case. In a league with the rules skewed towards the passing offense, other teams see the value in elite play makers. Which means you're not often going to find really talented guys at the position who fall.

 

[Smitty]

The Bucs used a first round pick on their third WR while paying 2 guys. The Jags traded a first to move up to get their #2 WR. The Bears burned a high second round pick on a roster with a highly drafted receiver and a highly paid receiver.

The Cowboys have 1 WR on the roster of any significance and it's like, well we will just have to get by with guys who were barely drafted. You're just going to have to develop them. It's crazy to me. But it's the same every year, well we had WR's they just went before our picks. But yet somehow OL is always BEST AVAILABLE! I'm all about picking BPA but when you stack your board a certain way year in and year out it tells me that you're just not evaluating some positions correctly. In the same way that a QB who is a good starter is more valuable than a probowl center. You sort of have to consider the positions when you're ranking these players. Obviously the rest of the NFL teams value WR more which is why you never see Dallas having a WR as BPA.

The two times we have taking a WR in the first. Lamb and Dez, they were guys who dropped massively on draft day. It's like the only way Dallas will take a WR is if there is some massive drop. But taking a guard 10 spots higher than most had him is a walk in the park.

It's like they don't realize that you need at least two high end WRs and even your third should be pretty good unless you have a high end TE.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It's like they don't realize that you need at least two high end WRs and even your third should be pretty good unless you have a high end TE.

It's like they think as long as you have an Oline the weapons don't matter. It's just not true.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

And this isn't to say I don't value the Oline. Without an Oline you're basically screwed. You need to protect your QB to be effective in the passing game. You need to block to be effective in the run game.

But ultimately you can't block everyone. Which means your WRs are going to need to be able to beat the coverage. You need the RB to be able to make a guy miss. You need guys who can take advantage of the great blocking. And I very much like Blue (Minus the fumbles) but we are banking on a fifth round pick to essentially be the second biggest play maker on offense.

And I was thinking, I heard that some in Dallas viewed Blue as the third RB in the draft. That has to be hyperbole right? Or just a couple random people. Because if you really didn't have the third best RB in this class as BPA until the fifth round? You're doing something wrong.

 

[data]

It's like they don't realize that you need at least two high end WRs and even your third should be pretty good unless you have a high end TE.

It's like they think as long as you have an Oline the weapons don't matter. It's just not true.

It’s like they think it’s impossible to do both. Oh, hi there, Roseman and Lurie.

SB contenders’ rosters aren’t a surprised unveiling at the end of the year. How they are built - every transaction, every dollar - is public.

Lurie sold 8% of the Eagles to finance the signing bonuses for his star-studded roster. Why?

“”
There's a reason we just sold limited partnerships for the highest price in sports history. It wasn't based on being the most profitable team at all. It's based on the performance over time and the reputation in the community and the forecasting of where we hope to be able to sustain over the next multiple years. It's much more than the financial bottom line. Now I guess you could get criticized by some Wall Street analysts, but we don't operate that way. We just don't operate that way."
Lurie has recognized something that is quite obvious: the real value in owning an NFL team is not in year-to-year profits, but in franchise valuation. And the more successful the team is, the more star players it has on the roster, the more the franchise valuation increases.

Lurie's willingness to spend up front cash means that they don't worry about things like dead money on their books. Philly paid out over $63 million in dead money in 2024, according to Spotrac, and yet still spent the fifth-most active cash in the league at over $255 million.
“”

Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie explained his business philosophy, and it's not about money

Lurie says he doesn't care about his year-to-year profits

www.cbssports.com

 

[boozeman]

 

[Rev]

 

[bbgun]

$350k prank call according to my math. Massive overreaction by the league.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

$350k prank call according to my math. Massive overreaction by the league.

$100,000 for an assistant coach seems like a hard hit. Imagine how pissed you'd be at your kid.

 

[Genghis Khan]

$350k prank call according to my math. Massive overreaction by the league.

I don't think it's an overreaction. They can't allow this to happen. They have to send a very strong message.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I don't think it's an overreaction. They can't allow this to happen. They have to send a very strong message.

Yeah honestly it needs to stop happening to all draft picks. And if this is what scares other coaches kids in the future, then that's what it is.

 

[Simpleton]

The NFL could easily just say teams have to video call players when they're picking them, that way you can see who is calling.

Seems pretty simple to me.

But safeguarding players info is important either way.

 

[bbgun]

I don't think it's an overreaction. They can't allow this to happen. They have to send a very strong message.

If you ever get a phone call telling you Jerry is selling the team, it's me.