2023 Season | Week 7 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Bye | 10/22/2023

[son of deadrise]

Take the Cowboys out of it. What about the Raiders leading the league in penalties all those years when Al was in litigation with them? Total coincidence?

And to add, I'm not a conspiracy guy really. I'm just frustrated that officiating is so uneven and that there are so many flags in general, because it ruins the flow of the game.

But I will point out again an interview I heard with the Papa Johns guy saying that Goodell was well known to be very petty and extremely vindictive against anyone he even perceived as crossing or challenging him.

In the case of the Raiders, I think they prided themselves on being renegades. I'd chalk up those penalties to being sloppy and undisciplined. And it's only natural that once a team gets a rep for committing a lot of penalties, refs start looking for them and calling more of them.

If the officiating is uneven, incompetent, or too intrusive, fine. If the officiating system is broken and needs an overhaul, fine—no argument.

But what I can't buy into is the idea that Goodell, in a fit of pettiness and vindictiveness, decides to take it out on a team, and issues an order to the people in charge of officiating to direct different crews to take it out on that particular team. You just can't sustain a conspiracy involving a several dozen people and expect all those people are going to keep their mouths shut over a period of several weeks or months. That never happens.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I'll admit to diminished competence, I'll admit to bias. The Eagles/Dophins article pretty much proves that.

But the bias in the USA Today article is on the part of one crew, and in favor of home teams.

What I won't admit to is a league-wide conspiracy to slant the officiating against certain teams.

I certainly agree that there isn't some memo sent out or a meeting among officials and executives to screw certain teams or determine who will win each game for a particular season ahead of time. That would be ridiculous.

The Cowboys are a particularly interesting situation because they are a team that people either love or hate more than any other NFL team. It's entirely possible that some crews are biased in our favor. Maybe they grew up Cowboys fans. Lord know we have the biggest fan base in the country. So if you just select at random a selection of the population the Cowboys will probably pop up more than any team as one a person would have a bias for. But on the flip side of it, you'd probably find a higher percentage of those people have a bias against the Cowboys. That's just because there are 32 NFL teams, and if you're not a Cowboys fan, you probably hate the Cowboys.

But taking the Cowboys out of it, the truth is officiating is not balanced. This isn't something that just comes out in the wash as equal at the end of the year. Some teams continually get better treatment than others. After that it's just a question as to why. The NFL would love for us fans to believe it's just some teams are better coached than others. But the evidence doesn't support it at all.

 

[data]

Ezekiel Elliott getting six games has no bias. Brodie Bottle Lock.

Oh, by the way, remember the time Jerruh sued the NFL regarding Goodell’s contract in 2017. Didn’t someone just post that Goodell is a petty, petty man?

 

[Genghis Khan]

Ezekiel Elliott getting six games has no bias.

Yep. The arbitrator was like a Giants season ticket holder or something. The whole thing was an absurd clown show and they were hell bent on suspending Zeke evidence be damned.

 

[roughneck266]

Ezekiel Elliott getting six games has no bias. Brodie Bottle Lock.

Oh, by the way, remember the time Jerruh sued the NFL regarding Goodell’s contract in 2017. Didn’t someone just post that Goodell is a petty, petty man?

Sorry, but there is absolutely no way to defend what happened with Zeke. It was complete and utter bullshit.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yep. The arbitrator was like a Giants season ticket holder or something. The whole thing was an absurd clown show and they were hell bent on suspending Zeke evidence be damned.

What, you and your crazy conspiracies.

 

[data]

Yep. The arbitrator was like a Giants season ticket holder or something. The whole thing was an absurd clown show and they were hell bent on suspending Zeke evidence be damned.

Giants, you say? Isn’t that New York where the league office is HQ’d?

Wasn’t the Giants kicker, Josh Brown, who had a history of incidents before culminating in his arrest for domestic violence also suspended six games? No, that was one game. One.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Simpleton]

Exactly what teams need to start doing to Hurts.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Exactly what teams need to start doing to Hurts.

I'm never one for intentionally hurting a player but if you're going to create that type of a pile up then absolutely you need defenders trying to jump the pile and hit as hard as possible while doing it. Without that type of momentum they will always get their 1 yard.

 

[Couchcoach]

Dak has won the division 3 times.

Now if you want to say their ceiling is the division round, that might be true and has been true for almost three decades.

Yes, that's what I meant. Win a wildcard game or two then crash in the divisional round.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yes, that's what I meant. Win a wildcard game or two then crash in the divisional round.

You would think we would just get lucky in the divisional round after like 20 years of Romo and Dak. But nope. I mean eventually the ball has to bounce right when you get there right?

 

[Couchcoach]

You would think we would just get lucky in the divisional round after like 20 years of Romo and Dak. But nope. I mean eventually the ball has to bounce right when you get there right?

I don't understand it either. The talent has been there several times. It just never happens