2021 Season, Week 6 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Patriots | 10/17/21

[Hoffa]

Here ya go, Sheiky baby.

I hope he's getting that thing on his nose looked at.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Just Godawful officiating all around.

And yet amazingly it didn't go both directions...

I seriously would love to know what's going through the refs minds when they call this shit and then totally ignore stuff against the other team. I can't just chalk it up as, well don't let the refs decide games. Bullshit, you can't put one team at such a severe disadvantage and just write it off.

 

[Hoffa]

And yet amazingly it didn't go both directions...

I seriously would love to know what's going through the refs minds when they call this shit and then totally ignore stuff against the other team. I can't just chalk it up as, well don't let the refs decide games. Bullshit, you can't put one team at such a severe disadvantage and just write it off.

It's always like that in New England.

Those tripping calls against Martin in the game there two years ago? I think I've seen tripping called maybe once in the NFL since then. And it was a blatantly obvious call.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It's always like that in New England.

Those tripping calls against Martin in the game there two years ago? I think I've seen tripping called maybe once in the NFL since then. And it was a blatantly obvious call.

Why though? What exactly makes the refs do that? I've bitched about refs plenty before but I honestly never felt so much like the refs were doing everything in their power to help a team win. This wasn't just one or two bad calls. This was from start to finish awful calls against us. And our players were well aware of it.

 

[shoop]

I'd like to see how many times we go for it on fourth down. We have to be leading the league as we seem to go for every fourth down. Mike might be the most aggressive coach in the league. Sometimes good and sometimes bad. It tells you one thing the coaching staff is confident in the offense.

How he keeps fassel from getting “creative”.
Also that blocked punt was a thing of beauty.

 

[Hoffa]

Why though? What exactly makes the refs do that? I've bitched about refs plenty before but I honestly never felt so much like the refs were doing everything in their power to help a team win. This wasn't just one or two bad calls. This was from start to finish awful calls against us. And our players were well aware of it.

Well, New England did have a TD called back on a hold. But I see your point.

Why, I don't know. But I've always felt when watching Patriots games on TV that they've gotten the benefit of the doubt calls more often than not, obviously most apparent in the Brady era. I can't say that I've watched a Patriots game start-to-finish, aside from this one, since Brady left.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Well, New England did have a TD called back on a hold. But I see your point.

Why, I don't know. But I've always felt when watching Patriots games on TV that they've gotten the benefit of the doubt calls more often than not, obviously most apparent in the Brady era. I can't say that I've watched a Patriots game start-to-finish, aside from this one, since Brady left.

Yeah but that hold was blatant on Gregory. Like really fucking obvious. Not at all like the holds they called on us.

 

[data]

Roethlisberger and the Tuck Rule

 

[Texas Ace]

I wouldn't put us even close to dominant, yet.

But we are competent. We are opportunistic. We are young. And we are improving. We will only get better as we get more time in and players back from injury. Certainly is a 180 from this time last year, no doubt.

Exactly.

I don't think they're gonna be dominant because we're still lacking real talent in too many areas, but they don't have to be either.

This defense is miles better than what it was last year and I'll take this defense over the 2018 unit which was statiscally better.

It's nice not give up yards and make it difficult to score on you, but if you do that without creating pressure or turnovers, then that unit eventually breaks just as it did vs the Rams in the playoffs.

This unit may not be dominant or hold teams to under 20 points all the time, but what they do they'll do all season long and that is far more helpful to a team than the solid statistical defenses that we've had in the past.

 

[Hoffa]

Roethlisberger may want to consider injecting himself with whatever Brady is taking on the "TB12 method" because he looks about 20 years older than he actually is.

 

[shoop]

I wonder if @alonso still thinks Dak shouldn't have been paid.

I’ll save you wondering. He does. Because what did Dak prove before he got paid, he isn’t married and doesn’t have kids, and he was selfish and took money that could have been used to make the team better.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Exactly.

I don't think they're gonna be dominant because we're still lacking real talent in too many areas, but they don't have to be either.

This defense is miles better than what it was last year and I'll take this defense over the 2018 unit which was statiscally better.

It's nice not give up yards and make it difficult to score on you, but if you do that without creating pressure or turnovers, then that unit eventually breaks just as it did vs the Rams in the playoffs.

This unit may not be dominant or hold teams to under 20 points all the time, but what they do they'll do all season long and that is far more helpful to a team than the solid statistical defenses that we've had in the past.

The days of the truly dominant defenses seems over. We have a lot of great pieces right now. But they are extremely young.

The Browns supposedly had a great defense and they were shredded. The Pats defense was great, they looked awful against us. Panthers had one and now shit. The way the NFL has gone, great offenses are just better than the best defenses.

 

[Texas Ace]

The days of the truly dominant defenses seems over. We have a lot of great pieces right now. But they are extremely young.

The Browns supposedly had a great defense and they were shredded. The Pats defense was great, they looked awful against us. Panthers had one and now shit. The way the NFL has gone, great offenses are just better than the best defenses.

Which is why creating pressure and having guys who are just always around the ball is much more important in today's NFL.

Without Gregory's 2 sacks and Diggs' pick 6, we don't win today.

 

[ravidubey]

Dallas needs to go all in at the trade deadline. 3rd down pass rush specialist or corner to pair with digs and we are the favorite.the defense is right on the edge.

Interior OL FTW.

Only weakness on the offense, and it consistently fucks us.

If not for 52 and 76 we could dominate any team at will with a healthy Dak.

I say let Collins play guard and trade for a fucking center or promote McGovern.

 

[ravidubey]

Which is why creating pressure and having his who are just always around the ball is much more important in today's NFL.

Without Gregory's 2 sacks and Diggs' pick 6, we don't win today.

And don’t forget the insane intercepted punt. That’s why this team is great.

They fly to the ball and manufacturer the plays they need.

 

[UncleMilti]

Great win, but I can’t believe more people aren’t on Meatballs ass for the retarded 4th and 1 calls. So you’ll go for it on your own 40 yard line, with nothing to gain but giving the Patriots great field position, yet with 3 minutes left in the game on 4th and 1, a first down probably let’s you take the clock down to basically nothing AND gives you a better shot at the winning FG. The % he played didn’t make sense because of the long FG vs a relatively easy 4th and one.

 

[ravidubey]

Great win, but I can’t believe more people aren’t on Meatballs ass for the retarded 4th and 1 calls. So you’ll go for it on your own 40 yard line, with nothing to gain but giving the Patriots great field position, yet with 3 minutes left in the game on 4th and 1, a first down probably let’s you take the clock down to basically nothing AND gives you a better shot at the winning FG. The % he played didn’t make sense because of the long FG vs a relatively easy 4th and one.

Yep. They gave that dinking and dunking noob some early confidence for no reason.

 

[Texas Ace]

Great win, but I can’t believe more people aren’t on Meatballs ass for the retarded 4th and 1 calls. So you’ll go for it on your own 40 yard line, with nothing to gain but giving the Patriots great field position, yet with 3 minutes left in the game on 4th and 1, a first down probably let’s you take the clock down to basically nothing AND gives you a better shot at the winning FG. The % he played didn’t make sense because of the long FG vs a relatively easy 4th and one.

It was actually at our own 34.

A terrible decision that gave them half their points for the first 53 minutes of the game.

 

[NoDak]

Only weakness on the offense, and it consistently fucks us.

We're averaging 34.5 points a game. I wouldn't exactly say it's consistently fucking us. Could it be better? Sure. But it's not nearly as bad as some are carrying on.

 

[Texas Ace]

We're averaging 34.5 points a game. I wouldn't exactly say it's consistently fucking us. Could it be better? Sure. But it's not nearly as bad as some are carrying on.

My concern with it is that they're going to make the wrong decision at the wrong time against the wrong team.

Imagine us losing a one score game in January because we gave up a cheap score due to an unnecessarily aggressive decision?

I just wish they understood that you don't have to go for EVERY 4th and 1.