2020 Season | Week 15 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Niners @ Cowboys | 12/20/2020

[boozeman]

One thing that we know is that Bill Callahan can coach the fuck out of an OL.

The Browns are missing two starters and they are not losing their minds.

 

[jsmith6919]

Oh shit...just saw the Jets won and fucked themselves out of the first pick

 

[Simpleton]

Hey guys, how about the job the coaching staffs of the Giants and Skins have done?

It's really amazing, despite everything they're both in contention for the division and...oh, the Giants are tied with the Cowboys and the Skins are one game ahead and have barely beaten a starting QB all year.

Cool, cool.

 

[DontCryWolfe]

Oh JFC they are gonna jack off to the OBJ catch again where he clearly pushed off, and they fucking lost the game

That’s what always kills me. They lost.

Same with the Leon Lett play in the Super Bowl, everyone always laugh at that, forgetting that at the time it set the record for the worst curb stomping the league had seen yet in the championship game.

 

[Genghis Khan]

He looked about as good as Elliott has all year IMO.

What I don't know about his ability to do what he did today for sixteen games. That is my thing.

Point being, we did not suffer any today without Elliott around.

That's true we didn't suffer, in part because we got some big plays and short fields, and in part because we haven't been trending great offensively regardless (it's now 2 weeks in a row that we failed to amass 300 total yards on offense).

Not saying Elliott has been great, but outside of the long run Pollard averaged something like 2.9 ypc. Elliott is almost always better than that.

But this is less about Elliott and more about Pollard and whether Pollard is a long term answer as a starter. Early results are not encouraging.

That's not to say Pollard isn't useful but I'm not so sure he'll ever be an RB1.

 

[data]

Oh shit...just saw the Jets won and fucked themselves out of the first pick

See how laughable that is?

Now think that we fucked ourselves out of the #3 pick. Not to same extent as losing top QB, but element is still there.

But, sure, rah-rah we're building something here.

 

[Genghis Khan]

If you had one face to punch, without knowing anything about either guy...

Would it be Colt McCoy or Baker Mayfield?

Obviously it would be Jim Schwartz.

 

[boozeman]

Obviously it would be Jim Schwartz.

I asked that question about those two specific guys.

You bringing up Douche Coach is just stating the obvious.

 

[boozeman]

See how laughable that is?

Now think that we fucked ourselves out of the #3 pick. Not to same extent as losing top QB, but element is still there.

But, sure, rah-rah we're building something here.

We haven't had the #3 pick in our sights for weeks.

 

[data]

Obviously it would be Jim Schwartz.

 

[boozeman]

But this is less about Elliott and more about Pollard and whether Pollard is a long term answer as a starter. Early results are not encouraging.

That's not to say Pollard isn't useful but I'm not so sure he'll ever be an RB1.

That's fine. Find a cheaper RB1.

It is pretty clear the Elliott we saw in his first couple of years is not the same as the nose-ring wearing fatty we have now.

 

[data]

We haven't had the #3 pick in our sights for weeks.

Oh, you thought we had a shot at 2020 when we played Minnesota?

...after we had lost four straight to the Cardinals, Eagles, Redskins and Steelers beforehand?

 

[Genghis Khan]

I asked that question about those two specific guys.

You bringing up Douche Coach is just stating the obvious.

If you insist on it being between just those two it's definitely Baker

 

[Cowboysrock55]

One thing that we know is that Bill Callahan can coach the fuck out of an OL.

The Browns are missing two starters and they are not losing their minds.

Yeah I've said it before. Not sure what his magic touch is but it's amazing.

 

[Simpleton]

After losing out on Sewell I truly couldn't give a shit whether we're picking 4 or 10. Obviously if we're at 4 there is value in a trade down but it's easier said than done, and if we weren't able to pull it off I really don't see any difference in the caliber of prospect available at 4 vs. 8-12, given what our needs are.

Winning is whatever but it's been awesome to see guys like Wilson and Gallimore develop into potential building blocks. Lawrence is almost all the way back to his pre-extension form, Gregory and Smith still look solid in terms of an edge rushing trio with Lawrence, and if we re-sign Lewis we look to have a passable trio of CB's in Diggs/Brown/Lewis.

And Lamb is on pace for nearly 1000 yards without Prescott for 75% of the year, that seems to be flying under the radar.

 

[Genghis Khan]

That's fine. Find a cheaper RB1.

It is pretty clear the Elliott we saw in his first couple of years is not the same as the nose-ring wearing fatty we have now.

That much is true. I just don't want to see us Joseph Randle this position again. Or Troy Hambrick it for that matter. I think people forget that being the main guy is a very different thing than being the backup or change of pace guy.

 

[boozeman]

Winning is whatever but it's been awesome to see guys like Wilson and Gallimore develop into potential building blocks.

How is Gallimore a building block?

He's basically the next Maliek Collins that we pretend to think can play.

 

[data]

After losing out on Sewell I truly couldn't give a shit whether we're picking 4 or 10.

Jerruh thinking about his last gasp at another SB trades up for the next Morris Claiborne.

 

[bbgun]

Obviously if we're at 4 there is value in a trade down but it's easier said than done, and if we weren't able to pull it off I really don't see any difference in the caliber of prospect available at 4 vs. 8-12, given what our needs are.

let someone else draft Parsons too high

 

[boozeman]

That much is true. I just don't want to see us Joseph Randle this position again. Or Troy Hambrick it for that matter. I think people forget that being the main guy is a very different thing than being the backup or change of pace guy.

I don't think you will have to worry about that since Elliott is the best player on this team and shit.