2020 Season | Conference Championships | Gameday Chatter Thread | 1/24/2021

[Cotton]

I thought the penalty was for the body slam. I wasn't paying too close attention so I may have missed it.

I'm just glad they finally stopped calling those ridiculous penalties for landing on QBs. That shit was asinine.

Yeah, it was for slamming him to the ground, but all he did was grab him, pick him up, and slam him to the ground. Dude landed on his shoulder. It was great technique.

 

[Cotton]

okay, now I'm on NoDak's side

He should be embarrassed about that shit. Good god.

 

[UncleMilti]

Oh.


I still don't get it.

I even imagined him in camo with leaves and trees around and it still doesn’t look like you.

 

[NoDak]

I put Aaron Rodgers in that group as well.

Elway was my personal favorite. That guy just willed his team to wins. He had a pretty ordinary supporting cast for most of his career.

I openly hated John Elway through the 80's and 90's. Mainly because my dad and a few close friends were huge Broncos fans and I had to constantly hear them verbally fellate him with their adoration. Although I secretly (and silently) respected his game and liked to watch him play.

That was one dude that could take a mediocre team and drag them kicking and screaming thru the playoffs. Ripping the heart out of a superior Browns team. Twice.

I was happy to see him finally get a superbowl win.

 

[boozeman]

So sad we gave away Ward for a who-gives-a-shit guard because we were worried about depth.

 

[bbgun]

He should be embarrassed about that shit. Good god.

football jerseys don't look good on skinny 70-year-old men

 

[Cotton]

So sad we gave away Ward for a who-gives-a-shit guard because we were worried about depth.

He didn't catch the damn ball.

 

[boozeman]

I openly hated John Elway through the 80's and 90's. Mainly because my dad and a few close friends were huge Broncos fans and I had to constantly hear them verbally fellate him with their adoration. Although I secretly (and silently) respected his game and liked to watch him play.

That was one dude that could take a mediocre team and drag them kicking and screaming thru the playoffs. Ripping the heart out of a superior Browns team. Twice.

I was happy to see him finally get a superbowl win.

I too felt the same way about Elway.

 

[boozeman]

He didn't catch the damn ball.

The fact he actually put himself into that position is way better than any of our current corners.

 

[Cotton]

football jerseys don't look good on skinny 70-year-old men

Just the fact that he staged it so he was running around the corner and gives a ridiculous "woooo" shows he should be extremely embarrassed for himself.

 

[data]

In no particular order, off the top of my head, I'd argue these guys are better pure QBs than Tom Brady.

Jim Kelley
Roger Staubach
Joe Montana
Aaron Rodgers
John Elway
Dan Marino
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning

And that's not even including a couple from way back. Johnny Unitas and Otto Graham.

I think any of these guys if put in the same situation that Tom Brady had could have accomplished what he did. Maybe even a few others, like Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Steve Young.

I'm not saying each and everyone of these guys are better than Tom Brady. It is next to impossible to judge strictly QB talent. Some are better at reading defenses. Some have better throwing arms. Some handle pressure better. Some are more moble. Etc... Only that I think they could have had a damn good shot of accomplishing what he did if dealt the same circumstances. The media and fans prop Tom Brady up like nobody else could have done what he has. I disagree.

Jim Kelly - No way.
Aaron Rodgers - I actually rank him higher than most people I know. I hate him too much personally much, though. If he leaves the Packers, maybe I'll reconsider.
Drew Brees - Throws too many INTs for my liking.

As for Marino, Elway, Staubach, I can't argue that Brady's definitively better, but the fact that Brady's been able to succeed with four cores of players over his career puts him over the top.

Montana is my #2 because I think Montana is the greatest playoff QB of all-time. Greatest Super Bowl QB of all-time. I'll give Brady the edge, though, because Montana had the benefit of the greatest NFL player of all-time along with other supporting cast. Walsh and Belichick are a wash...and cuz Montana is a 49er. Fuck him and all their fans.

Steve Young is an interesting one, but he's a 49er.

As for the argument of Brady playing in a pass-friendly and pussified game, sure. I agree with that. But today's game also has players 30% bigger and faster and requires 365-day, year round conditioning. Today's game is also more sophisticated than the past. Could yesteryears players handle this? Tough to argue about this era vs past eras, so I weigh it moreso on success amongst contemporaries. Bottom-line, nobody's come close to Brady's accomplishments 2000-2010, 2011-2020 and surely not over 2000-2020.

Lastly, you can say Brady had Belichick. How much of an advantage is Belichick over Walsh, Landry, Shula? Is that advantage worth more than the supporting cast advantage Montana & Staubach had over Brady? Marino and Elway (except for late 90s) gets shafted in the player supporting cast dept.

 

[data]

I don't know what you've been watching, but Brady doesn't have all that much more left than Brees does.

And it's not gonna be any better 8 months from now.

It's an amazing achievement for him and he did enough today, but he was very bad in that 2nd half.

Put it this way. I trust 44-year old Brady more than I do Blaine Gabbert.

 

[ravidubey]

Wow. Mahomes in the grasp... no problem first down

 

[data]

How did booze get the rep of being an old man? Because of his avatar? It's been like this ever since I can remember. All the way back to the rivals.com boards. If he was as old as people thought back then, he'd be about 110 by now.

I figure it's just a decades-old running joke that's funny to feed into.

 

[roughneck266]

okay, now I'm on NoDak's side

Dude is such a fuckin twat waffle...

 

[boozeman]

This one is getting out of hand.

 

[boozeman]

How did booze get the rep of being an old man? Because of his avatar? It's been like this ever since I can remember. All the way back to the rivals.com boards. If he was as old as people thought back then, he'd be about 110 by now.

Yep. It is because of the avatar.

I just ran with it.

 

[Cotton]

Wow. Mahomes in the grasp... no problem first down

He is incredible.

 

[jsmith6919]

That's game, Bills aren't built to come back from multiple tds down

 

[Cotton]

That's game, Bills aren't built to come back from multiple tds down

Especially not against Mahomes.