1st round pick: Tyler Smith, OT, Tulsa

[Genghis Khan]

There's been smoke around Tennessee and Smith for weeks, and basically every national media type with league sources (Jeremiah, Pauline, Breer, King, Schrager, etc.) had Smith going to the Titans. They also traded out right after we took him.

This organization loves to pump bullshit but I definitely think Smith would've been off the board within a few picks, if not literally within 1-2 picks, if we had gone elsewhere.

Maybe, but the fact that we might have lost him to another team had we not picked him there isn't the issue.

Don't overdraft a guy just because other teams are willing to do it.

It's the classic Quincy Carter scenario.

 

[Simpleton]

Maybe, but the fact that we might have lost him to another team had we not picked him there isn't the issue.

Don't overdraft a guy just because other teams are willing to do it.

It's the classic Quincy Carter scenario.

That's true but it's not like we overdrafted the guy by a full round or more like Carter or even someone like Trysten Hill.

It was an overdraft by maybe 10-15 picks, if you're only considering where we generally "think" he should've gone.

The real issue for me is not so much Smith, but bypassing the value in someone like Johnson, or trading down and still getting someone like Ebiketie, Travis Jones, etc. because we were locked in on an OL.

 

[boozeman]

Yeah I believe this one. Doesn't justify a reach but Smith wasn't getting out of the first. This isn't a Strange or Raimann type reach.

Definitely not at the level the Strange pick was.

 

[boozeman]

That's true but it's not like we overdrafted the guy by a full round or more like Carter or even someone like Trysten Hill.

It was an overdraft by maybe 10-15 picks, if you're only considering where we generally "think" he should've gone.

The real issue for me is not so much Smith, but bypassing the value in someone like Johnson, or trading down and still getting someone like Ebiketie, Travis Jones, etc. because we were locked in on an OL.

That is the deal right there. OL was the pick no matter what.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Rev]

Win Super Bowls? Does he know who drafted him?

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

If we had a real OL coach, I would feel better.

Same.

 

[NoDak]

So, if Penning had dropped to us at 24 and we took him, would this still have relevance? Or even been posted at all?

 

[Cotton]

So, if Penning had dropped to us at 24 and we took him, would this still have relevance? Or even been posted at all?

I post a lot of stuff that I don't necessarily agree with.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

So, if Penning had dropped to us at 24 and we took him, would this still have relevance? Or even been posted at all?

Yeah that's just dumb. So if a guy is drafted in the second round instead it improves his chances of making a probowl? I'll just file this with other useless and pointless statistics. It's a quirk more than anything actually relevant.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

That is the deal right there. OL was the pick no matter what.

Yeah and I think we all knew that to be the case. We just all assumed it would be Zion or Green. Neither made it to us. The real interesting part is that even if they did make it to us I think we were taking Tyler Smith. So I'm glad they didn't because than the judging and bitching would have been really awful.

The truth is the Cowboys knew they needed to rebuild an aging O-line. They aren't wrong. But you can't pretend like there aren't other positions in football that matter as well.

 

[Simpleton]

So, if Penning had dropped to us at 24 and we took him, would this still have relevance? Or even been posted at all?

Mosher is an idiot, particularly because about half of those guys are/were high-level starters (Solder, Humphries, Erving as an interior OL, Castonzo, Reiff, Pugh, Darrisaw) including a guy who might be the best RT in the league right now in Ramczyk.

If Smith gives us 8-10 years of Humphries/Castonzo type play, I take that every time at 24.

 

[ravidubey]

The guy has to stop bear hugging dudes and extend his arms.

This seems like a very coachable thing, though. You can't coach his size, power, nastiness, and wingspan.

And honestly that's the one area he's behind, just about everything else... recognition, footwork, tenacity... is in place.

Everyone can work on something, for Smith it's his handwork.

To me a "project" is someone who can't contribute a damned thing for years of development.

This guy is already likely a starting guard and projects to either OT spot.

 

[p1_]

This guy is already likely a starting guard and projects to either OT spot.

starts immediately at LG, slides to LT as the other TySmith eventually retires.

 

[ravidubey]

starts immediately at LG, slides to LT as the other TySmith eventually retires.

One would hope that's the plan.

Honestly you don't ever replace a mutant like Tyron Smith, who could? Few humans are 6'5" 320 with 36"+ arms and the quickness of a TE. Just another great talent we've managed to mostly squander.

But this guy also has rare measurables and quickness, and a base of power with a nastiness that's maybe the one slight weakness in Tyron's game.

Hopefully he takes well to coaching. If not, he'll still be a very good guard for the foreseeable future.

 

[shoop]

I’m not a fan of the pick. I would have rather seen the team go a different direction. But if he goes to LG and can match Martin on the other side I think we are in a much better position.
I believe the leadership wants this team to go back to run first with passing mixed in rather than being pass happy.

 

[Cotton]

I’m not a fan of the pick. I would have rather seen the team go a different direction. But if he goes to LG and can match Martin on the other side I think we are in a much better position.
I believe the leadership wants this team to go back to run first with passing mixed in rather than being pass happy.

I really wanted Devin Lloyd.

 

[p1_]

I’m not a fan of the pick. I would have rather seen the team go a different direction. But if he goes to LG and can match Martin on the other side I think we are in a much better position.
I believe the leadership wants this team to go back to run first with passing mixed in rather than being pass happy.

a very Zeke friendly pick.

 

[Cotton]