The Great Police Work Thread

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
Cops have shot 3 different people in the back while handcuffed in Bay Area alone in the last 10 years. One metropolitan area!! In comparison their are about 20 officer shooting deaths a year across he country across the dozens if different kinds of agencies.

I'd like to see proof of that statement.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
You haven't once answered my rebuttals about why the hand should be on the gun. All you do is focus on the cops that are naughty. Which is probably like 5% of the cops out there. But, it's all you got. So, carry on arguing the same ole shit without a real point.

Your default position is that a cop should have his hand on his gun and is justified in his fear, my default position is the opposite.

We both recognize situations when the others position would be the correct one (I think we do).

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
Well, given from what I have seen of their actions, they sure fear one a fuck ton more than the other.

How much have you seen from how a cop fears death by driving? Good lord, man.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
I'd like to see proof of that statement.

63 cops dies last year, 23 in shootings
45 dies the year befor that, for have the shooting numbers.

You want more accurate numbers google officer fatalities and them do a little digging to find a site that actually breaks out shootings from heart attacks (from their fat asses eating donuts).

As far as shooting people handcuffed in the back, I just know that from watching the news. They did it 8 years ago when I was a senior in college, and they were rioting 2 years ago about the same thing. Google it and you will find them.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

Clay_Allison said:
There's about 300,000 cops in America, so 5% is still 60,000 people and they can do a lot of damage. Public trust in the police is important and rooting out the bad apples so people, especially minorities who are less likely to trust them, can cooperate without feeling threatened will do more overall for the police mission than buying more military hardware.

5% of 300,000 is 15k, FYI. Not 60k. 15k over a country of 275 million is pretty sparse.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
How much have you seen from how a cop fears death by driving? Good lord, man.

I have seen the way they drive without a care in the world, speeding while on the phone, and I can compare that to their jumpiness when having to interact with people.

So is your new position that cops fear traffic accident and shooting at traffic stops equally? You have dumbest positions, tell me more about the huge birth rates during famine...

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
63 cops dies last year, 23 in shootings
45 dies the year befor that, for have the shooting numbers.

You want more accurate numbers google officer fatalities and them do a little digging to find a site that actually breaks out shootings from heart attacks (from their fat asses eating donuts).

As far as shooting people handcuffed in the back, I just know that from watching the news. They did it 8 years ago when I was a senior in college, and they were rioting 2 years ago about the same thing. Google it and you will find them.

Perfectly good proof right there.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
5% of 300,000 is 15k, FYI. Not 60k. 15k over a country of 275 million is pretty sparse.

Yea, but their aunt 275 million cops and 15k is a big proportion of 300,000. Shit dot you even see how sick your justification is? 15k is an even smaller portion of 6 billion, but that number ain't fucking relevant.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
Perfectly good proof right there.

I can only lead a horse to water (google) can't make him drink.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
I have seen the way they drive without a care in the world, speeding while on the phone, and I can compare that to their jumpiness when having to interact with people.

So is your new position that cops fear traffic accident and shooting at traffic stops equally? You have dumbest positions, tell me more about the huge birth rates during famine...

I have the dumbest positions? :lol

Coming from the guy that can't decipher civility from anarchy.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
Yea, but their aunt 275 million cops and 15k is a big proportion of 300,000. Shit dot you even see how sick your justification is? 15k is an even smaller portion of 6 billion, but that number ain't fucking relevant.

Yeah, it's 5%. I believe I said that.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
Coming from the guy that can't decipher civility from anarchy.

I don't recognize the reference.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
I can only lead a horse to water (google) can't make him drink.

It's on you to prove your argument. I'm not doing it for you.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
I don't recognize the reference.

Pretty much ends the argument.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

I bet cops are scared of snakes more than traffic stops, too.

/anarchist

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
It's on you to prove your argument. I'm not doing it for you.

This I disagree. If we were talking about whether the us or russia won the space race. And I said us because we got to the moon first, is the burden if proof on me to show that we went to the moon? Or is my job to prove that since we went to the moon, that is what should give us victory in the space race.

If in the course of that argument you wanted proof we actually went to the moon, I would feel justified in saying google it for yourself.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
This I disagree. If we were talking about whether the us or russia won the space race. And I said us because we got to the moon first, is the burden if proof on me to show that we went to the moon? Or is my job to prove that since we went to the moon, that is what should give us victory in the space race.

If in the course of that argument you wanted proof we actually went to the moon, I would feel justified in saying google it for yourself.

You stated actual numbers. So, yeah, it's on you to prove those numbers.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
I bet cops are scared of snakes more than traffic stops, too.

/anarchist

Video tape police, and actually enforce the laws against them like is done with everyone else, and I would have no problem with police. Not exactly an anarchist.

Just remember, a cop is far more likely to shoot a member if the public then to be shot by them. 23 cops killed by guns last year, any desire to guess how many people they killed? But yea, they are the ones who should be afraid.

jeebs · Jun 27, 2014

Iamtdg said:
You stated actual numbers. So, yeah, it's on you to prove those numbers.

Touché, but that still is not enough to make me do that while posting on my cell phone.

Cotton · Jun 27, 2014

jeebs said:
Video tape police, and actually enforce the laws against them like is done with everyone else, and I would have no problem with police. Not exactly an anarchist.

I don't have any problem with that.

Just remember, a cop is far more likely to shoot a member if the public then to be shot by them. 23 cops killed by guns last year, any desire to guess how many people they killed? But yea, they are the ones who should be afraid.

The cops are better shots? :shrug

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