2022 Season | Divisional Round Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ 49ers | 1/22/23

[Bipo]

I know Pollard is one of the only two guys on the team that have any juice on offence, but it would be a huge mistake to hand out a big contract to the guy. I'm guessing they will tho.

 

[shoop]

Get a new OC
Get a new owner
Get a new QB

in no particular order

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

I don’t have any illusions of Cooper Rush being anything other than a career back up, but when your backup wins games and doesn’t turn the ball over with any regularity, there’s something there.

I love you tho.

I certainly remember 3 picks real fast in the first Eagles game but who’s counting .

 

[shoop]

Pollard is a nice player but he’s another one you better not tie yourself to. Better to trade him or even lose him for nothing. He’s not Barry Sanders, he’s a 1000 yard back who isn’t really built for the rigors of carrying the entire workload and you will find three other quality backs with the picks and cap space you would get by moving him.

He will get signed to a contract that nets the team a comp pick at the very least. I’d rather he stay on a reasonable salary but the moronic ownership doesn’t do reasonable.

 

[boozeman]

I blame myself. I was weak, I believed.

 

[son of deadrise]

Jerry's another step closer to the grave without ever sniffing a SB. Take comfort in that.

Plus, what was so cool about all the Cowboys/49ers rivalry retrospectives they were doing was that Jimmy was the one who had success against SF in those two years in the 90s. Jerry and Jimmy part company and SF has owned Jerry ever since. If Jerry's sober enough or aware enough to realize that, that's got eat at him. That would be a good thing.

 

[Carp]

The team was good enough to win yesterday, but the QB wasn’t.

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

1.) late throw on 3d down ( INT ) sets the niners up on our 20.. gives away free points

2.) 2nd and 2 in the red zone … forced throw ( INT ) costs us points

3. Under throws Ceedee on bomb , yes he caught anyway but an easy 6 off the board .. more points

4.) 3rd down misses a wide open TY Hilton for an easy 6.. in stead forces the ball to Lamb covered like a blanket by Warner . More points off the board

5.) again under throws Gallup for an easy 6 and doesn’t even put it in a spot where he can go up and go get it.. more points off the board .

im sorry ..but to honestly think Dak is worth any kind of elite QB $$ is just ludicrous.. The offensive line played fantastic considering the front 7 they were up against . He had time . He was late with his decision making and throws were poor ....and that’s not what elite QB’s do…We can sit here and make excuses and analyze this with horse blinders but facts are facts … He’s a mediocre QB riding the coattails of a talented roster …. When the games on the line … he shits the bed …end of story

 

[UncleMilti]

So effectively tank for 5-10 years hoping we strike lightning with a QB in the top 10 as opposed to trying to close a 7-point gap that was mostly determined by about 3 plays?

Got it.

It's hard to accept because of how bad Jerry is but the disappointments of the last 30 years have very little bearing on this particular roster.

And pretty much everybody around the NFL has talked about the 6 teams that were left today (Bills, Bengals, Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers and us) as the clear best 6 in the league. It's pretty much obvious that this team is one of the best 6-7 in the league right now, that doesn't guarantee anything in terms of results, but you don't just tear that down for a hope and a prayer.

The "tank forever" plan can be enacted anytime.

I think the days of “striking it rich with a QB” or “lucking into a franchise QB in the top 10” are mostly gone in the NFL. Purdy is one example. Most of these guys coming out of college are pro ready, and guys like Shanahan are able to take them and give them a simple system to be successful in. You obviously can win with a last draft pick type QB in the NFL if he’s surrounded by good talent.
Dak is inconsistent and he’s impatient, and more than that he’s not learning from his mistakes. Of course the Retardo twins don’t do him a lot of favors, but they don’t make him throw INTs.

 

[Smitty]

I blame myself. I was weak, I believed.

You will all go back to it next year again. Booze was outed as a real negativity poser this playoff season.

 

[Smitty]

1.) late throw on 3d down ( INT ) sets the niners up on our 20.. gives away free points

2.) 2nd and 2 in the red zone … forced throw ( INT ) costs us points

3. Under throws Ceedee on bomb , yes he caught anyway but an easy 6 off the board .. more points

4.) 3rd down misses a wide open TY Hilton for an easy 6.. in stead forces the ball to Lamb covered like a blanket by Warner . More points off the board

5.) again under throws Gallup for an easy 6 and doesn’t even put it in a spot where he can go up and go get it.. more points off the board .

im sorry ..but to honestly think Dak is worth any kind of elite QB $$ is just ludicrous.. The offensive line played fantastic considering the front 7 they were up against . He had time . He was late with his decision making and throws were poor ....and that’s not what elite QB’s do…We can sit here and make excuses and analyze this with horse blinders but facts are facts … He’s a mediocre QB riding the coattails of a talented roster …. When the games on the line … he shits the bed …end of story

Right, it’s not just the interceptions. Dak misses way too many passes and the problem is getting worse with time. He’s never had a great arm, either with exceptional strength or accuracy, and now both seem to be deteriorating. He doesn’t help himself with his absolutely abysmal footwork and mechanics as well. He is constantly throwing across his body or off his back foot, etc, but even from the pocket when he should be planted, he just misses guys in stride way too often.

I am not the biggest Kellen Moore fan but I don’t really think it’s true that the OC is holding Dak back. And I know we bitch about Gallup and losing Amari for nothing and Zeke being broken down, but I actually think his supporting cast does their best job to give Dak a chance and he misses the opportunities himself far too much.

Like, I don’t think he is elevating these guys at all. It's true that the cast on offense needs to be improved, but it's also true that the QB isn't good enough.

It’s hard to say where you “rank,” Dak if we are making a numbered list but the numerical ranking is kinda irrelevant. I agree more than ever now that he’s in the group with like, Derek Carr. Can put up some stats because anyone can these days, but not a winner.

I would say he’s no better than a third tier guy. You have your true elites - Mahomes, Burrow, maybe Allen. Then you have your guys with warts but who have enough talent at something to be in the “capable” category, like Lamar Jackson or (sadly) Jalen Hurts.

Dak may have at one time been in that second group but since his injury I’m putting him in the third tier with a guy like Carr now.

 

[UncleMilti]

We were like two bounces away from the NFCC in 2014 and 2016, and you could even argue today.

Losing by 7 on the road in a game swung by just a few plays when 1 of our only 2 offensive playmakers was out is hardly "sucking". If not for Dak's dumbassery we were on track for at least 10 if not 14 points in the first half before Pollard went down, basically leaving us with no running game against the best defense in the league.

You left out “lost on the road to a rookie QB”.
And the other issue is what Smitty pointed out- when you have a real GM running your team you probably have viable resources behind Pollard. Losing Pollard hurts but you would have guys behind him. We have Zeke, who shouldn’t even be on the team. The Niners have 3-4 RBs who ALL can perform, and they all have just a bit different style- and that’s exactly what the Niners went to in the 4th and we couldn’t stop them.
But hey we had fatass Zeke plowing along at 2 yards/carry. What a fuckin joke.

 

[UncleMilti]

I blame myself. I was weak, I believed.

When the Booze gets Jerry-ed, the world is truly fucked.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah I'd almost give my left nut to have some reporter ask Jerry whose decision it was to give that horrible contract to a running back who can't waddle for more than 3 yards a carry anymore when even internet spares know you don't pay running backs. Especially ones you rode like a rented mule his first few years.

How pathetic to know the game was basically over when Pollard got hurt because we have to play Jerry's favorite overpaid pet.

 

[UncleMilti]

For those who ACTUALLY think ANYTHING will change on this team, or that there’s hope….I offer this quote from none other than the biggest clown and PT Barnum of the NFL:

“Team owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Prescott is the top reason for hope that the Cowboys' championship drought will end.
I thought we would win it because I've got such confidence in Dak," Jones said. "I'll line up out there five times with that [similar] situation, and if we've got him at quarterback, I'll take my chances. So I'm just saying give me that setup a year in advance, a month in advance, and give me him as the quarterback and I feel very strongly that we'll win."

 

[Smitty]

I hate to be this guy but you have to look at what the Eagles have done. They drafted a QB in the second round when they still had their last franchise QB on the roster when they saw he was breaking down but before they cut bait. Then they traded him when the league still thought he had value, as the league probably thinks about Dak. The eagles are constantly swindling people out of extra high draft picks in other deals too, like they would absolutely capitalize on moving a player like Diggs before giving him a massive contract and as a result the Eagles are flush with extra draft capital despite being a 1 seed.

We need to take notes. Their way is smart and ours is dumb.

 

[shane]

Realistically Dak isn’t going anywhere next season.

What should be done is turning to a run first, defense oriented team. This “Dak must be aggressive” bullshit has to go.

Replace Elliott w a runner who is more dynamic and can shoulder some of the load for Pollard, who can get like 15 carries and be used more in the short passing game. Shore up the OL with more depth. Use multiple TEs more. This is the only path forward. Build around the defense which is strong and tough.

This is the only way forward

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

For those who ACTUALLY think ANYTHING will change on this team, or that there’s hope….I offer this quote from none other than the biggest clown and PT Barnum of the NFL:

“Team owner and general manager Jerry Jones said Prescott is the top reason for hope that the Cowboys' championship drought will end.
I thought we would win it because I've got such confidence in Dak," Jones said. "I'll line up out there five times with that [similar] situation, and if we've got him at quarterback, I'll take my chances. So I'm just saying give me that setup a year in advance, a month in advance, and give me him as the quarterback and I feel very strongly that we'll win."

That ol liver spot is delusional…

 

[Smitty]

Realistically Dak isn’t going anywhere next season.

What should be done is turning to a run first, defense oriented team. This “Dak must be aggressive” bullshit has to go.

Replace Elliott w a runner who is more dynamic and can shoulder some of the load for Pollard, who can get like 15 carries and be used more in the short passing game. Shore up the OL with more depth. Use multiple TEs more. This is the only path forward. Build around the defense which is strong and tough.

This is the only way forward

So I don’t agree about being a run first team. It’s not where the league is anymore. You have to set up this team to be better in the passing game because it was painfully average too often this past year.

Consider it like you are greasing the rails for the next QB though because it won’t help this loser win a Super Bowl.

 

[Texas Ace]

Reportedly Micah Parsons said defense didn’t have the big plays, but limiting CMC and Deebo to what they did, we should’ve won still and especially without the two INTs

that’ll get blown up

I'm glad he said that.

Dak killed them repeatedly down the stretch and all those "my bads" and "won't happen again" doesn't cut it.

He cost them their place in the NFCC and he needs to be held accountable.