2021 Season, Week 6 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Patriots | 10/17/21

[Genghis Khan]

What's so concerning for me about McCarthy is that the things we are griping about are the same things that he was criticized for in GB. Right now I will enjoy the ride but Im still wary. At seasons end Im not sure what I would do if it was a choice of McCarthy or Moore.

He was one of the most successful coaches in NFL history in GB, won a Superbowl, and coached there for like a dozen years.

He's no different than he was in GB? YES, PLEASE.

Please give us some of that.

 

[mcnuttz]

Mike does make some questionable decisions, but he's instilled a culture change that you've got to be excited about as a fan of the team.

Honestly, how can this tight-knit group not remind you of the Super Bowl teams in the 90s?

 

[UncleMilti]

To be fair had we had better success at those third and 1s and fourth and 1s earlier in the game he probably would have gone for it later in the game. But at some point you have to realize it's not your day in those situations. We were what, 1 for 3 on fourth downs at that point?

The thing that really bothers me is it shouldn't have been 4th and 1 there. We got the first down a play earlier and the refs made up a bullshit holding call. Without that fake hold, we bleed the clock and have a shorter field goal for the win. Of course that field goal kick was ugly so maybe it was best to get the miss out of the way when we did.

Yeah I agree with that. Still don’t know why our OL found it impossible to get a yard.

 

[UncleMilti]

Agreed, and it's not just social media either. That dude on ESPN called McCarthy the worst coach on his staff and should be questioned for point shaving. It's lunacy.

I think McCarthy is a good coach- he’s definitely got the team playing hard and not going off the deep end when adversity strikes. I just don’t like some of the weird calls he makes. It’s still better than ANYTHING we got from Garrett.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yeah I agree with that. Still don’t know why our OL found it impossible to get a yard.

I think Bill had a great plan for it. The one we did get Zeke broke outside because there was no one there. I think we needed a counter punch. On our two point play we tried something different but Bill was a step ahead of us.

 

[Simpleton]

They were focusing on stopping the run between the tackles and they have some really good run stuffers, that's the long and short of it.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

They were focusing on stopping the run between the tackles and they have some really good run stuffers, that's the long and short of it.

Yeah not great pressure players up the middle but guys who can hold their ground and eat blocks. Bill is a great defensive coordinator, I give him props for it as opposed to blaming our guys for some massive failure.

But even he gets questioned. I saw somewhere his defensive call on that 3rd and 25 being questioned for not bringing pressure. I'd probably have the same issue if we did it. They had lots of 3 man rushes against us.

 

[boozeman]

 

[bbgun]

 

[Rev]

He was one of the most successful coaches in NFL history in GB, won a Superbowl, and coached there for like a dozen years.

He's no different than he was in GB? YES, PLEASE.

Please give us some of that.

Wasnt talking about his record. You can win games despite HC blunders. Hell we just went through 11 years of that. Im talking about game management issues and why wouldn't we want to do better? Anybody can stay the same but lets try to improve ourselves in anyway possible.

 

[data]

Wasnt talking about his record. You can win games despite HC blunders. Hell we just went through 11 years of that. Im talking about game management issues and why wouldn't we want to do better? Anybody can stay the same but lets try to improve ourselves in anyway possible.

Sit down, shut the fuck up and take a hit of this shit. Got it from Brazil

~passes blunt~

 

[Genghis Khan]

Wasnt talking about his record. You can win games despite HC blunders. Hell we just went through 11 years of that. Im talking about game management issues and why wouldn't we want to do better? Anybody can stay the same but lets try to improve ourselves in anyway possible.

If you're winning games - which he did a lot - clearly you're doing a whole lot right.

If you're comparing him to Garrett I don't know what to tell you but he's not Garrett.

Sure anybody and everybody can improve but there's no reason to fret if he doesn't. He's a good coach. He was a good coach in GB.

I don't know what's going on here but there's kind of an unreal level of criticism being levelled towards a Super Bowl winning coach whose current team is off to a 5-1 start. Especially considering they've looked very good so far.

 

[Cotton]

If you're winning games - which he did a lot - clearly you're doing a whole lot right.

If you're comparing him to Garrett I don't know what to tell you but he's not Garrett.

Sure anybody and everybody can improve but there's no reason to fret if he doesn't. He's a good coach. He was a good coach in GB.

I don't know what's going on here but there's kind of an unreal level of criticism being levelled towards a Super Bowl winning coach whose current team is off to a 5-1 start. Especially considering they've looked very good so far.

Welcome to the board. Grab yourself an avatar and post more, seriously.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Welcome to the board. Grab yourself an avatar and post more, seriously.

I never post seriously.

 

[Rev]

If you're winning games - which he did a lot - clearly you're doing a whole lot right.

If you're comparing him to Garrett I don't know what to tell you but he's not Garrett.

Sure anybody and everybody can improve but there's no reason to fret if he doesn't. He's a good coach. He was a good coach in GB.

I don't know what's going on here but there's kind of an unreal level of criticism being levelled towards a Super Bowl winning coach whose current team is off to a 5-1 start. Especially considering they've looked very good so far.

Not a comparison to Garrett at all. Just pointing out that teams can win despite adversity. I dont really think Im being that critical of him either. Just pointing out the fact that some issues that have been discussed here were the same complaints from his time in GB. Do I want to run him out? No. I will see how it plays out and enjoy the ride.

 

[p1_]

Wasnt talking about his record. You can win games despite HC blunders. Hell we just went through 11 years of that. Im talking about game management issues and why wouldn't we want to do better? Anybody can stay the same but lets try to improve ourselves in anyway possible.

recall his hiatus from coaching and all the soul searching and self analysis that was supposedly done in a barn somewhere? Embracing analytics and all. Game management, clock management, risk-reward and field position management are areas that should have been reviewed and examined. Apparently not.

 

[Genghis Khan]

 

[data]

I wonder if a game’s different variables go into this ‘analytics’. If the wind was whipping at 35mph, would it give the same percentages for a FG try? Common sense says of course not.

More realistically, with our offensive proficiency, I’d think our winning percentage would increase for ‘going for it’.

 

[UncleMilti]

Doesn’t mean shit if they don’t reveal what the numbers are based on.
It’s just common sense it’s at LEAST a push in % win/lose for a 4th and 1 try vs kicking a FG from 50 yards out, especially given the TO position and the field position the Cowboys were in. Get the 4th and one, and you basically run out the clock and kick a walk off FG from 35 yards out.
Either way, a failed 4th and 1 or missed FG, the Cowboys get an opportunity to stop the Patriots and get the ball back. However the 4th and 1 conversion basically wins the game, while making the FG or missing from 50 yards still gives the Patriots the ball back with multiple scenarios of outcome.

 

[boozeman]

I never post seriously.

Good. Because you sound like a flaming homer right now. McCarthy clearly has fucked up several times. He needs a guy upstairs helping him manage the clock, tell him when to challenge and proper use of timeouts. But I am sure that since he has won a Super Bowl, he is Teflon?