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Plan9Misfit

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You said these two things in the same post. This is my whole point. Biden hates this country. Trump loves this country.
And I meant it. I think Biden loves the country but hates liberty. They’re not mutually exclusive. Just like Trump loves himself and his own power more than the country. But they both love the country in their own warped ways.
 

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I think Biden loves the country but hates liberty. They’re not mutually exclusive.
I 100% disagree. And, I will not argue this. If you come back and say you think you are able to love this country and hate its liberties at the same time, we have lost this conversation. Those two things can not ever exist together. Ever.
 

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I 100% disagree. And, I will not argue this. If you come back and say you think you are able to love this country and hate its liberties at the same time, we have lost this conversation. Those two things can not ever exist together. Ever.
They absolutely can, and they absolutely do. I don’t give a shit whether you believe it or not. I’ve seen it multiple times with my own two eyes.

And in many circumstances, I’d argue that both Democrats and Republicans hate liberty.
 

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They absolutely can, and they absolutely do. I don’t give a shit whether you believe it or not. I’ve seen it multiple times with my own two eyes.

And in many circumstances, I’d argue that both Democrats and Republicans hate liberty.
Both Democrats and SOME Republicans hate liberties. But, regardless, if you hate our liberties, then you hate our country, and that is not debatable. You either love the constitution and the Bill of Rights or you oppose it. There is no inbetween.
 

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God damn, Plan9, I know you're smart. I know you are. You can't love this country and hate its liberties at the same time. I mean HATE liberties, not "I'm willing to bend liberties to meet my need" kind of hating liberties. If you hate our liberties, you hate our country and what it is built on. I'm not sure how that is debatable.
 

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Trump killed an "austere religious scholar," got our troops out of Syria, put Iran on notice, made inroads with North Korea, renegotiated bad trade deals that were to our disadvantage, and cemented several historic treaties between Israel and rival Muslim countries. Not bad for four years.
But he also acted like a POS 90% of the time. I cannot fathom for the life of me why more Trumpers do not see how it is Trump's fault that we now have Biden. Biden is 100x worse as a president but Trump's followers refuse to hold him accountable for losing the easiest election to win.

The response to that usually references how his bulldog ways helped the country. What is lost here is that winning was much more important than being right. So yeah, congrats for cheering on the douchey ways, now we have Biden. That is equivalent the crowd cheering for throwing a pick 6 with 10 seconds on the clock when all you had to do was kneel and win the game.
 

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But he also acted like a POS 90% of the time. I cannot fathom for the life of me why more Trumpers do not see how it is Trump's fault that we now have Biden. Biden is 100x worse as a president but Trump's followers refuse to hold him accountable for losing the easiest election to win.

The response to that usually references how his bulldog ways helped the country. What is lost here is that winning was much more important than being right. So yeah, congrats for cheering on the douchey ways, now we have Biden. That is equivalent the crowd cheering for throwing a pick 6 with 10 seconds on the clock when all you had to do was kneel and win the game.
So, you're in the "Trump got voted out because of mean tweets" crowd. I don't agree.
 

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Trump is a pos for sure but he meant well for this country. He did everything he said he would do to progress or get this country back to financial and resource independent. You can not deny that. If you do, you have lost all credibility with me.

Biden hates America and every fucking thing it stands for.

I’d say there’s a difference between those two people.
He did a lot of good but he definitely did not do everything he said he would. He did not end Obama Care, fix the healthcare system or build the wall and make Mexico pay for it.
 

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He did a lot of good but he definitely did not do everything he said he would. He did not end Obama Care, fix the healthcare system or build the wall and make Mexico pay for it.
It would've helped if the fucking Republican party weren't absolutely worthless as a whole.
 

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This. They had more power than Dems do now for 2 years and all they got done was the tax cut. Fucking worthless ass RINOs
As far as the whole "for the cause" thing, they might be more of a problem than the Dems.
 

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So, you're in the "Trump got voted out because of mean tweets" crowd. I don't agree.
That's the stupid ass response I expected. He fucking lost. Now we have what we have. If you feel indignant about defending your stance then knock yourself out. Trump is your kindred spirit and apparently defending is more important than winning. Trump winning would have possibly saved the current situation we have. Make sure you jerk Trumpybaby off real hard while we have Americans trapped and most likely killed by the Taliban. By all means, keep Trump's pride intact.
 

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It would've helped if the fucking Republican party weren't absolutely worthless as a whole.
So he didn't do all that he said he would? Got it.

The point is, stop treating him like he's a god.
 

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As far as the whole "for the cause" thing, they might be more of a problem than the Dems.
Yep, and McCain's bitchass was why we failed on repealing obamacare. After he ran on doing just that. And it wasn't even really a full repeal.
 

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Yep, and McCain's bitchass was why we failed on repealing obamacare. After he ran on doing just that. And it wasn't even really a full repeal.
The issue isn’t that Trump didn’t repeal Obama Care, the issue is the entire GOP bitches about it throughout its existence, rightfully exclaiming how terrible it is, but instead of spending as much time coming up with an alternative, they got what they wanted, a majority in the house and senate, but had no good plan to replace it with.
 

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That's the stupid ass response I expected. He fucking lost. Now we have what we have. If you feel indignant about defending your stance then knock yourself out. Trump is your kindred spirit and apparently defending is more important than winning. Trump winning would have possibly saved the current situation we have. Make sure you jerk Trumpybaby off real hard while we have Americans trapped and most likely killed by the Taliban. By all means, keep Trump's pride intact.
I'm tired of just winning with inconsequential politicians. Who gives one fuck if a politician wins? I wanted Trump to win. And if that meant he was doing exactly what he did while he was #winning as president to win, then that's how I wanted him to win. Politicians faking and lying about shit to win elections is exactly why we have career politicians.

Trump was the closest thing we have had to Reagan since, well, Reagan.

I just hated his spending. That's about the worst I can say about Trump. Except mean tweets, of course.
 

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The issue isn’t that Trump didn’t repeal Obama Care, the issue is the entire GOP bitches about it throughout its existence, rightfully exclaiming how terrible it is, but instead of spending as much time coming up with an alternative, they got what they wanted, a majority in the house and senate, but had no good plan to replace it with.
They didn't even have to have a replacement. Hell, we already have medicare and medicaid. They just needed to simply repeal it.
 

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I'm tired of just winning with inconsequential politicians. Who gives one fuck if a politician wins? I wanted Trump to win. And if that meant he was doing exactly what he did while he was #winning as president to win, then that's how I wanted him to win. Politicians faking and lying about shit to win elections is exactly why we have career politicians.

Trump was the closest thing we have had to Reagan since, well, Reagan.

I just hated his spending. That's about the worst I can say about Trump. Except mean tweets, of course.
#DeSantis2024

I really hope Trump does the right thing and endorses DeSantis instead of running again
 

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So he didn't do all that he said he would? Got it.

The point is, stop treating him like he's a god.
You might want to go back and read all of my posts about Trump. :lol
 

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#DeSantis2024

I really hope Trump does the right thing and endorses DeSantis instead of running again
100%. And, I think this speaks a little bit to skid's misguided point. Trump would way more greatly benefit this country by endorsing DeSantis than he would by running again. If he runs again, and especially if he wins, this country will go bananas.
 
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