Report: Jonathan Martin “gone AWOL” from Dolphins

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Incognito has always been an asshole, but I think Martin also happens to be a pussy who isn't cut out for football.
Ricky Williams had an interesting take on it. Basically, Martin didn't want to play football anymore, but came up with a way to get paid and not play. Not sure how long he can pull it off for, but you know the Dolphins and NFL are going to be very careful in forcing him to come back to work.
 

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Agent denies telling ESPN reporter that Martin has issues with other Dolphins

Posted by Mike Florio on November 7, 2013, 7:52 PM EST

As the Richie Incognito-Jonathan Martin situation continues to unfold, agents connected to each player will continue to hear from reporters who are chasing the next wave of news. And it won’t be the usual army of NFL reporters; the agents will be hearing from folks who otherwise don’t work the NFL beat.

On Thursday, ESPN’s Mark Schwarz — a non-NFL beat guy — contacted agent Rick Smith to discuss Jonathan Martin. Schwarz then reported that Smith said Martin had issues with multiple players on the team.

After Schwarz’s report appeared on ESPN, Smith denied providing that information to Schwarz on Twitter: “I have no independent knowledge of anything Mark Schwartz from ESPN attributed to myself. I’ve never heard of [Schwarz] until today.”

Smith also made it clear that he plans to stop returning phone calls from members of the media he doesn’t already know.

As we understood the situation as of Sunday, Martin’s issues relate specifically to Incognito and generally to the culture of the team’s locker room. That culture was on display Wednesday, with players unanimously supporting Incognito and openly questioning aspects of Martin’s claims, including for example the contents of the voice message from Incognito that contained a racial epithet.

On Wednesday, receiver Brian Hartline reportedly said that the players had been “ordered” not to comment on Monday, but that they decided to “defend themselves.” Hartline did an about face on Thursday, telling Jeff Darlington of NFL.com that coach Joe Philbin told the players to indeed defend themselves.

Regardless of whether the players did or didn’t defy orders from their coach, Wednesday’s comments indicate that Incognito is welcome in the team’s locker room, and that Martin may not be. And that lays the foundation for a possible claim that Martin can’t return to the team because he legitimately fears retaliation from players who view him as the reason for Incognito’s suspension and (per reports from earlier in the week) eventual termination.

“I think if you have a problem with somebody — a legitimate problem with somebody — you should say, ‘I have a problem with this,’ and stand up and be a man,” tackle Tyson Clabo said Wednesday. “I don’t think what happened is necessary. I don’t know why he’s doing this, and the only person who knows why is Jonathan Martin.”

While some players may not realize it, those words suggest that the red carpet remains in place for Incognito, and that Martin won’t be welcome unless he returns with his tail tucked between his legs and a clear explanation of why he did what he believed was the only thing he could do.
 

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Martin can never play there again.
 

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Martin can never play there again.
I think both guys are pretty much done...for different reasons.

I can't imagine Martin would fit in anywhere and Incognito is forever a racist bigot thug.
 

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Martin to Indy...they could use him and are developing the right culture.
 

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ESPN SportsCenter - Attorney says Dolphins T Jonathan Martin "endured harassment far beyond locker-room hazing"
 

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Quote from teammate: “We are going to run train on your sister. . . . She loves me. I am going to f–k her without a condom and c– in her c—.”
Just typical locker room hijinks, folks!
 

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I think both guys are pretty much done...for different reasons.

I can't imagine Martin would fit in anywhere and Incognito is forever a racist bigot thug.
I have a harder time seeing Martin playing because no team is going to want to take on such a sensitive situation and no locker room will ever accept him.

As for Incognito? It'll be tough, but I think he'll find his way back onto a team. He has a number of guys defending him here so that's going to help a bit.

With that said, it wouldn't surprise me if in fact neither one ever played a down of NFL football again.
 

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I have a harder time seeing Martin playing because no team is going to want to take on such a sensitive situation and no locker room will ever accept him.

As for Incognito? It'll be tough, but I think he'll find his way back onto a team. He has a number of guys defending him here so that's going to help a bit.

With that said, it wouldn't surprise me if in fact neither one ever played a down of NFL football again.
I think you've covered every base there, Ace :lol
 

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I think the sun will come out today, but I could easily see it being cloudy. But, then again the clouds could come and then go away, so who knows.
 

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Incognito will play again. Maybe not in Miami, but he'll get another shot.
 

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Martin will play again...I do think the Colts make sense. He has Luck and Hamilton there.
 
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For as weird as this story is, I'm a little disappointed in it. When I first read AWOL, I was hoping for another Barrett Robbins partying in Mexico story.
 

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Incognito will play again. Maybe not in Miami, but he'll get another shot.
Baltimore would be a good fit for him. There seems to be a bit of extremism atmosphere there.
 

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From the many thousands of interviews I've heard from NFL players over my years being the sort of person who works 10pm to 6am listening to sports radio, I think that NFL players are actually a lot less quick to judge a player than people think.

They aren't just going to hate Martin for what they heard on ESPN. They are an insular culture. They are going to judge a man by how he plays and how he handles himself with them, not just his rep.
 

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ESPN NFL - Majority of 72 players surveyed by ESPN.com wouldn't want Dolphins' Richie Incognito on their team
 

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ESPN NFL - Dolphins G Richie Incognito feels "shocked, betrayed" by teammate Jonathan Martin - source
 
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