The Outrage Thread

[Smitty]

Animal?

Hardly. And using that kind of characterization is exactly what fuels shit like this.

The guy was not an animal. He was a dumbass.

He was drunk, he fell asleep in the drive thru. He could have just take his DUI and dealt with it.

Instead, he felt empowered to resist arrest and try to run off like a moron, plus grab a tazer. And use it.

That's the real problem here. It is like there is no thought to someone being a dumbass.

There is a real desire to minimize accountability and this is the latest example.

Do I think he should have been shot in the back? No.

But it is not like this "shoot them in the leg" thing really is possible.

The deliberately unspoken angle on the majority of these cases is that the black victims - in your own words - feel empowered or entitled to resist arrest.

I’m so tired of hearing that they do this because they are afraid of the police killing them. There isn’t even anecdotal evidence that supports this fear, because very few of the incidents occur when the arrested person submits to the police as directed. Even if you are thinking of the few where a complying detainee was still killed, those incidents are dwarfed by the increased chances of you being shot when you do resist. Once the police have made contact with you and intend to attempt an arrest, the resisting outcome is way, WAY more likely to get you killed than the submitting outcome. There’s simply no arguing against that, period.

What they are really afraid of, though, is jail, and so they run. And like most criminals, the consequences of their actions rarely runs through their heads when they choose to engage in their criminality.

 

[Smitty]

Has anyone seen the body cam footage? I'd be curious to see.

Its out there. Simple google search.

 

[jsmith6919]

I looked it up. The neighborhood is overwhelmingly black. I don't believe in hiring quotas, but after two weeks of racial upheaveal, wouldn't it be wise to send at least one black cop when the perp is a black suspect in a majority-black neighborhood?

The Atlanta PD is 58% black, odds are you will get one but it didn't happen on this occasion, so back to my original statement. Do you not send anyone because they are the wrong race? And on the flip side are you saying not to send black PD to majority white areas?

 

[Cotton]

I looked it up. The neighborhood is overwhelmingly black. I don't believe in hiring quotas, but after two weeks of racial upheaveal, wouldn't it be wise to send at least one black cop when the perp is a black suspect in a majority-black neighborhood?

You apparently don't know how police dispatch works. We should not dispatch by color. That would be monumentally stupid and inefficient.

 

[Sheik]

The deliberately unspoken angle on the majority of these cases is that the black victims - in your own words - feel empowered or entitled to resist arrest.

I’m so tired of hearing that they do this because they are afraid of the police killing them. There isn’t even anecdotal evidence that supports this fear, because very few of the incidents occur when the arrested person submits to the police as directed. Even if you are thinking of the few where a complying detainee was still killed, those incidents are dwarfed by the increased chances of you being shot when you do resist. Once the police have made contact with you and intend to attempt an arrest, the resisting outcome is way, WAY more likely to get you killed than the submitting outcome. There’s simply no arguing against that, period.

What they are really afraid of, though, is jail, and so they run. And like most criminals, the consequences of their actions rarely runs through their heads when they choose to engage in their criminality.

They should be teaching the proper way to deal with cops in schools, just like fire drills or earthquake drills.


Training doesn’t have to be entirely on cops. Learn how to act right.

 

[Cotton]

The deliberately unspoken angle on the majority of these cases is that the black victims - in your own words - feel empowered or entitled to resist arrest.

I’m so tired of hearing that they do this because they are afraid of the police killing them. There isn’t even anecdotal evidence that supports this fear, because very few of the incidents occur when the arrested person submits to the police as directed. Even if you are thinking of the few where a complying detainee was still killed, those incidents are dwarfed by the increased chances of you being shot when you do resist. Once the police have made contact with you and intend to attempt an arrest, the resisting outcome is way, WAY more likely to get you killed than the submitting outcome. There’s simply no arguing against that, period.

What they are really afraid of, though, is jail, and so they run. And like most criminals, the consequences of their actions rarely runs through their heads when they choose to engage in their criminality.

The "evidence" from that black people are scared come only from the media and their parents. The rest is all ridiculous.

 

[bbgun]

The Atlanta PD is 58% black, odds are you will get one but it didn't happen on this occasion, so back to my original statement. Do you not send anyone because they are the wrong race?

In the short-term, I would try to send black officers to settle disputes in black areas, yes.

And on the flip side are you saying not to send black PD to majority white areas?

No, because they can legitimately kill a white perp without igniting riots.

 

[Cotton]

In the short-term, I would try to send black officers to settle disputes in black areas, yes.

I am all about a conversation about fixing this shit, but this is dumb. Sorry.

 

[jsmith6919]

In the short-term, I would try to send black officers to settle disputes in black areas, yes.



No, because they can legitimately kill a white perp without igniting riots.

So you would prefer everyone rollover and appease this idiocy. Got it. Enjoy the Brawndo, it's got electrolytes!!!

 

[bbgun]

I am all about a conversation about fixing this shit, but this is dumb. Sorry.

Why do you think police departments recruit black applicants? So they can work exclusively in white neighborhoods?
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[Cotton]

Why do you think police departments recruit black applicants? So they can work exclusively in white neighborhoods?
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No god damn police department recruits exclusively black people to be cops. Jesus, man.

 

[bbgun]

No god damn police department recruits exclusively black people to be cops. Jesus, man.

Dude, I'm talking about cops who hit the streets, not secretaries and support staff. And I fail to see why it's "appeasement" to send a black cop to a black neighborhood when times are extremely tense.

 

[jsmith6919]

 

[jsmith6919]

Dude, I'm talking about cops who hit the streets, not secretaries and support staff. And I fail to see why it's "appeasement" to send a black cop to a black neighborhood when times are extremely tense.

Again, what if the closest cop was white? You still haven't answered this.

 

[Cotton]

Dude, I'm talking about cops who hit the streets, not secretaries and support staff. And I fail to see why it's "appeasement" to send a black cop to a black neighborhood when times are extremely tense.

So, we need to affirmative action up these dispatch calls? That's dumb to me. Just send a cop.

 

[bbgun]

Again, what if the closest cop was white? You still haven't answered this.

You send the white cop. But there was plenty of time for a (second) black officer to arrive on the scene.

 

[jsmith6919]

You send the white cop. But there was plenty of time for a (second) black officer to arrive on the scene.

Retard

 

[boozeman]

No god damn police department recruits exclusively black people to be cops. Jesus, man.

But there is, and have been, massive diversity hiring initiatives for years.

 

[boozeman]

You send the white cop. But there was plenty of time for a (second) black officer to arrive on the scene.

One Adam12...your presence is required....person of color in arrest scenario...respond....

 

[bbgun]

But there is, and have been, massive diversity hiring initiatives for years.

Some people think blacks are hired to be liaisons to .. the white community.