Donovan McNabb says Cowboys could have ‘major problem’ if they don’t pay Dak Prescott

[Shiningstar]

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never ages

 

[Shiningstar]

The players said "this is BIDNESS"

okay, its business, but that also means, some players have to take the sword, and trust me, as long as players get thiers, they dont care. So Dak and dallas will see who takes the sword.

ITS BIDNESS.

Just remind both sides of that. Mainly the players, everytime a player loses out on money, at the bottom of the contract or release papers, write down ITS BIDNESS.

 

[1bigfan13]

I have different view about what players deserve. One position as I read is that by virtue of deciding to play a professional sport the are entitled to get not only what they earn as a player but even much more if they are no longer able to play because an already existing set of hazardous circumstances exist in the sport and although they know the hazards of the game the only equitable position for them is to be paid millions that they never earned even though they chose to take the known risk.

I see it as someone who volunteers to risk themselves because that is what they choose to do while accepting the risks of the game. They are no different than the military individuals who also know the risks but are willing to accept it. Perhaps the argument could be made that these individuals also deserve to be paid millions if they can no longer are able to serve because of being incapacitated. Would you agree ? Maybe so but which is easier for you to justify?
Let them take out insurance policies like the rest of the world.

And your comment and mindset regarding this makes my point and is exactly why Dak and others players are willing to play hardball to try to squeeze every penny that they can from teams while they have the ability to do so.

As you mentioned, they're playing a hazardous sport and know the risk when they come into this. Which is why I find it laughable when fans scream and shake their fists at players for not taking "team friendly" deals.

 

[L.T. Fan]

But here's the thing, LT. You're speaking as if injuries are the only reason teams wiggle out of contracts early.

Every year there are several examples of players who are perfectly healthy and who actually perform up to their contract standard yet NFL organizations will still approach those players and either release them or strong-arm them into restructuring their deals for cap relief.

Where's the insurance policy for that?

There isn’t any. Why would they expect to get money they no pinger were living up to the need. There are millions of employees that regress on their job and are faced with pick up the performance or get demoted or leave the organization. Contracts are for the most part bilateral and both sides have to live up to the contract. Contracts aren’t a guarantee of anything. There are terms that are to be fulfilled. Lacking that they become in default and are no longer valid.

 

[L.T. Fan]

And your comment and mindset regarding this makes my point and is exactly why Dak and others players are willing to play hardball to try to squeeze every penny that they can from teams while they have the ability to do so.

As you mentioned, they're playing a hazardous sport and know the risk when they come into this. Which is why I find it laughable when fans scream and shake their fists at players for not taking "team friendly" deals.

Of course it is hazardous and everyone knows that. The point I decry is the guarantee of money when they do not earn it. Cover that like everyone else does with insurance against the hazard. Its not an entitlement for any job to be paid like a golden parachute. I am aware an employee wants the windfall, I am just not a fan of it and if I were the owner I would hold out until I was satisfied the person was worth it not just because they wanted a parachute. That’s the situation with Dak specifically. He doesn’t have the skins to make those demands.

 

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if I were the owner I would hold out until I was satisfied the person was worth it not just because they wanted a parachute.

They’re called the Cincinnati Bengals.

...conversely, that's also the New England Patriots. Belichick has traded away Richard Seymour, Jamie Collins, Garropollo and others before up for costly extension. They've let go of Wes Welker, Nate Solder and other proven players instead of costly extension. They've signed incentive-laden, prove it contracts to folks like Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon. Traded for veterans on a short stint for cheap and let someone else sign them for big money, like Aquib Talib.

 

[L.T. Fan]

They’re called the Cincinnati Bengals.

...conversely, that's also the New England Patriots. Belichick has traded away Richard Seymour, Jamie Collins, Garropollo and others before up for costly extension. They've let go of Wes Welker, Nate Solder and other proven players instead of costly extension. They've signed incentive-laden, prove it contracts to folks like Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon. Traded for veterans on a short stint for cheap and let someone else sign them for big money, like Aquib Talib.

That’s interesting but doesn’t really address the issue of some one who hasn’t attained the point of being able to make demands. That’s the difference. If you have put your skins on the wall you have at least earned the right to make demands. You may not get them but you can state your case. But if you are making demands because someone else got paid and so should you then that’s an invalid and unjustified argument in my opinion. This is a just whining about why someone else is getting something and so should you.

The examples you give doesn’t address the reasons some of these individuals were released. They may or may not have been in a position to make demands but were dismissed for whatever reason.

 

[data]

That’s interesting but doesn’t really address the issue of some one who hasn’t attained the point of being able to make demands. That’s the difference. If you have put your skins on the wall you have at least earned the right to make demands. You may not get them but you can state your case. But if you are making demands because someone else got paid and so should you then that’s an invalid and unjustified argument in my opinion. This is a just whining about why someone else is getting something and so should you.

Anyone can make the demands. If you don’t like it, Go pound sand.

 

[data]

The examples you give doesn’t address the reasons some of these individuals were released. They may or may not have been in a position to make demands but were dismissed for whatever reason.

Then, please, provide some examples.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Then, please, provide some examples.

Too busy pounding sand.

 

[data]

Too busy pounding sand.

Too bad. You spend a lot of time explaining your rationale ad nauseam, but unintelligibly as few of us, if any, actually understand your point. Queue gif of shutting door on old man.

So, pretty please with a cherry on top, provide some examples to illustrate whatever the fuck point you’re trying to make.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Too bad. You spend a lot of time explaining your rationale ad nauseam, but unintelligibly as few of us, if any, actually understand your point. Queue gif of shutting door on old man.

So, pretty please with a cherry on top, provide some examples to illustrate whatever the fuck point you’re trying to make.

My point is if you haven’t proven yourself yet you have no right to expect the world to come to you. Dak hasn’t proven himself that he is in a group that has made their mark in the league and has bargaining power.He and his agent are just whining that he should get the same as the big boys because he has a contract due. I’ll get back to pounding sand now.

 

[boozeman]

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Finest moment of the Wade era.

 

[boozeman]

My point is if you haven’t proven yourself yet you have no right to expect the world to come to you. Dak hasn’t proven himself that he is in a group that has made their mark in the league and has bargaining power.He and his agent are just whining that he should get the same as the big boys because he has a contract due. I’ll get back to pounding sand now.

He has proven himself more than enough to get a deal. This is not like Kirk Cousins.

Now he has a badger of an agent and is bickering about the length of the deal.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

He has proven himself more than enough to get a deal. This is not like Kirk Cousins.

Now he has a badger of an agent and is bickering about the length of the deal.

This is exactly it. I think the agent is just being a pain in the ass. And I think most NFL players just trust their agent to handle things.

 

[L.T. Fan]

This is exactly it. I think the agent is just being a pain in the ass. And I think most NFL players just trust their agent to handle things.

Let’s remember however who is the employer of the agent. If Dak wasn’t of the same mindset as the agent he would tell him to back off he is taking the deal. So to me he is just allowing the agent to do his bidding but if he wasn’t as adamant about the term then he could impose his will on the agent. Again who is really holding out here.

 

[p1_]

Bad advice from the agent, I think

 

[L.T. Fan]

Bad advice from the agent, I think

Meaning Dak is getting bad advise but believing it? I think that’s the case. The question remains ultimately who is holding out.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Meaning Dak is getting bad advise but believing it? I think that’s the case. The question remains ultimately who is holding out.

You generally speaking listen to the expert. Someone comes into my office to hire me as an attorney. They pay me money because I'm good at what I do. Went to law school for 3 years, 7 years of college, another 10 years experience working. Yeah, most of my clients will come in the office and trust my advice when I'm handling their case. I'm sure it's very similar for a sports agent. And I'm sure a guy like Dak is doing the same thing. He isn't experienced in NFL contracts, he is going to trust the guy he thinks is the expert to represent his best interests.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

True, but I'm with LT in that Dak must agree with the agent's strategy or else he'd get another agent, like players do all the time.