2020 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread...

[bbgun]

Tashard Choice @Wash before halftime

Not to mention the way that game ended.

 

[Texas Ace]

This game is misinterpreted by dumb ass Cowboys fans just as much as the loss to the Giants in the Divisional Round.

It is like they want to think that a win was inevitable had one thing happened. But they forget the other stupid miscues that caused the situation to come back even necessary to begin with.

They do the same thing with the loss at Green Bay in 2014.

Everyone remembers the Dez catch, but to me, Murray fumbling on what should have been a 60 yard TD and Hannah not recovering the fumble in his hands after the Cowboys took a 21-16 lead were far more damaging.

And then there's stupid ass Garrett going shotgun and throwing it deep on 3rd and 1 at the GB 32 when the Cowboys were 4 for 4 on 3rd and 1's on the ground up to that point in the game.

All 3 of those were more pivotal in the outcome than the Dez no-catch.

 

[Texas Ace]

we lost Jimmy, then free agency hit and the Niners went on a shopping spree and closed the gap. this was the very definition of a "bought" championship.

And then they were punished years later for going over the cap that year.

Talk about a no shit moment. Way to punish them after the fact.

 

[Texas Ace]

Ricky Watters. Hated that little shit.

Couldn't fucking stand him.

I thoroughly enjoyed his fumble in the 2nd quarter of the 92 NFCC that led to a Cowboys score along with him catching that swing pass in the 93 NFCC where he was swarmed by the entire defense in the backfield.

Fuck that guy.

 

[Texas Ace]

Ken Norton

Goddamn it I loved Norton. The one fucking team he had to go to in those days. The one fucking team.

It also pissed me off with how that 49ers team was a glutton of past prime players - Tim Harris, Richard Dent and Rickey Jackson

Don't forget Lee Woodall, Gary Plummer, and Toi Cook.

 

[bbgun]

They do the same thing with the loss at Green Bay in 2014.

Everyone remembers the Dez catch, but to me, Murray fumbling on what should have been a 60 yard TD and Hannah not recovering the fumble in his hands after the Cowboys took a 21-16 lead were far more damaging.

And then there's stupid ass Garrett going shotgun and throwing it deep on 3rd and 1 at the GB 32 when the Cowboys were 4 for 4 on 3rd and 1's on the ground up to that point in the game.

All 3 of those were more pivotal in the outcome than the Dez no-catch.

I'm still mad about how badly we mismanaged that possession right before halftime. The only team that should have scored points before the half was Dallas. Instead, we fuck up and Rodgers needs only a few seconds to get them into FG range. Complete clusterfuck that was emblematic of the Garrett/Romo years.

 

[bbgun]

Couldn't fucking stand him.

add "Bar None" to that list

 

[Texas Ace]

BTW, Candlestick was such a shit hole.

Their climate and the location of the stadium made it hard to maintain a decent surface.

God bless George Toma for 1992.

 

[Texas Ace]

I'm still mad about how badly we mismanaged that possession right before halftime. The only team that should have scored points before the half was Dallas. Instead, we fuck up and Rodgers needs only a few seconds to get them into FG range. Complete clusterfuck.

Yes dude....that's the one I'm talking about.

14 unanswered, driving yet again, Green Bay on their heels.

If we go up 21-7 and even 17-7, I think we keep playing from ahead and win.

Murray was 4 for 4 on 3rd and 1 and we basically were running at will on them. But in typical Garrett fashion, we abandon the run for no fucking reason to go shotgun on 3rd and 1.

Not under the center, not playaction, but a straight up shotgun to throw down the field.

What an absolutely fucking moron Garrett was/is. We took all the momentum and threw it away for no damn good reason.

Instead of a 2 score game, Bailey misses the long field goal on a windy field and Rodgers drives GB to a FG which gave them some momentum back going into the half.

Garrett is responsible for so many fucking losses, it's unreal.

 

[Texas Ace]

add "Bar None" to that list

Fuck William Floyd too.

 

[bbgun]

Not under the center, not playaction, but a straight up shotgun to throw down the field.

and Tony dropped the snap

 

[Texas Ace]

and Tony dropped the snap

Yup, so maybe it was intended to go to someone else but dropping the snap put him in a position where he just had to throw it out of bounds down the field.

Still, you can tell by the blocking and by Murray's actions that it was never going to be a run nor a playaction, and that's what pisses me off most.

Every time Garrett got away from running in a favorable run situation, it made it even worse that he did so without using the playaction to his advantage. He never even gave the defense a run/pass look, and that just never made sense.

The only two options there should have been giving it to Murray or going playaction, but Garrett, as usual, found a way to fuck it up.

 

[Cujo]

And then they were punished years later for going over the cap that year.

Talk about a no shit moment. Way to punish them after the fact.

That's the part that still makes me want to break all my furniture. They should have been stripped of that championship.

 

[boozeman]

And then they were punished years later for going over the cap that year.

Talk about a no shit moment. Way to punish them after the fact.

There was a graphic that showed that Rickey Jackson was paid $165K or so, but because they won, he raked in about a million.

 

[data]

Ricky Watters. Hated that little shit.

Then the fucker goes to the Eagles.

 

[Texas Ace]

Then the fucker goes to the Eagles.

At least I got to laugh at him there.

"For who? For what?"

Good times.

 

[bbgun]

I was more worried about Charlie Garner.

 

[data]

That's the part that still makes me want to break all my furniture. They should have been stripped of that championship.

I don’t mind we didn’t win the Super Bowl. Just pissed me off tat the 49ers won it.

Man it would be awesome to live in a world where Steve Young never got the monkey off his back. I don’t mind the Niners having five overall, just not that team and not in the middle of our heated rivalry. I’d much prefer if a Jeff Garcia-led team had won the 49ers fifth overall when we sucked instead.

The list of players to be ringless would be grand — Merton Hanks, William Floyd, Watters especially.

 

[Simpleton]

to this day, I have no earthly idea how we lost that game. in the span of a few seconds, we went from a game winning FG attempt for Dallas to a game winning FG attempt for the Skins. TO dropping a bomb for an easy TD didn't help.

I was at that game, it was...not great.

 

[Simpleton]

Yes dude....that's the one I'm talking about.

14 unanswered, driving yet again, Green Bay on their heels.

If we go up 21-7 and even 17-7, I think we keep playing from ahead and win.

Murray was 4 for 4 on 3rd and 1 and we basically were running at will on them. But in typical Garrett fashion, we abandon the run for no fucking reason to go shotgun on 3rd and 1.

Not under the center, not playaction, but a straight up shotgun to throw down the field.

What an absolutely fucking moron Garrett was/is. We took all the momentum and threw it away for no damn good reason.

Instead of a 2 score game, Bailey misses the long field goal on a windy field and Rodgers drives GB to a FG which gave them some momentum back going into the half.

Garrett is responsible for so many fucking losses, it's unreal.

Garrett doesn't have a strategic football brain, he consistently froze in big moments and almost never had a great feel for momentum unless he was criticized by the media and fans endlessly until it sunk in.

In that scenario if you're taking a shot on 3rd and 1 when you have a running game you're extremely confident in, it's usually because you're going to turn around and go for it on 4th.

Of course Garrett pussed out as he always did because there was never any cohesive strategy, everything this team did offensively seemed to be siloed and in a vacuum with no proactive foresight or dedicated philosophy.

Anytime a Garrett team had success it was seemingly the function of an external stimulus shaking things up almost by mistake.

In 2014 Linehan came in and went run heavy after everybody and their mother bitched about abandoning the run game. In 2016 Dak took the league by storm and added an extra facet to our offense with his running ability. In 2018 you have the Cooper trade and our defense carrying us in large part due to Richard revitalizing the culture on that side of the ball plus the emergence of LVE, who of course didn't become a full time starter until halfway through the year when it became clear as day he should be starting over Lee.

I don't feel like any of that was a direct result of any sort of entrenched Garrett philosophy or overarching strategy. He just kept on year after year, espousing the same cliches, somehow got the players to not quit on him in 2018 and was more or less just a product of his environment.