The Coronavirus Thread...

[Genghis Khan]

Well, I'm in out of the camp of one of those people "who doesn't know anyone, who even knows anyone" who contracted CV.

Buddy of mine from HS died from it as of Sunday night. Was a truck driver who delivered bulk groceries across the south for several major grocery stores. Died in TX.

Pretty fucked up.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[Cotton]

Well, I'm in out of the camp of one of those people "who doesn't know anyone, who even knows anyone" who contracted CV.

Buddy of mine from HS died from it as of Sunday night. Was a truck driver who delivered bulk groceries across the south for several major grocery stores. Died in TX.

Pretty fucked up.

Sorry to hear that, brother.

 

[Cotton]

I’m tempted to write out my thoughts right now.

Im going to real quick.

What of the following is likely?

1. This has been a totally over blown, self inflicted disaster, and an unforced error.

2. This is an understated monster that when it’s fully understood can change our existence.

3. Life is going to go back to normal rather seamlessly. When we look back in 12 months, nobody is going to be worried about this going forward. It was scary before it was understood. It’s less lethal than first thought.

4. Welcome to our new yearly schedule. Corona is something that will turn our country and mostly the world into an 8 month economy. Saving money has never been more crucial. You have to live off of your own means for 4 months. Complete lockdowns are mandatory for all, not just some. You don’t leave your house, government food delivery services deliver your goods during this time. You go outside your house, you become a threat against the United States on the level of a terrorist.

I had a hell of a time spelling “terrorist” right now. I did it for you guys.

Anyway, life as we know it could be changing into something none of us could have imagined 3 months ago. This, when you stop and think about it, this shit happens in movies, it doesn’t happen in real life, yet here we are.

The government, right or wrong, the jury is still out, looked at its people and said “Stop.”, and we listened. They own us now. They can tell us anything they want and we’ll mostly go along to get along.

Out of those scenarios, I have to choose #1.

 

[Genghis Khan]

My thoughts are prolific right now. I probably would have invented the wheel back in the day.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I don't think things will change forever. The Spanish Flu was much more deadly -- young, healthy people would be dead within hours of showing symptoms -- and it's not like we wore masks or social distanced forever. You know how people are, within a few years of this thing going away, people will start acting like they always have.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Out of those scenarios, I have to choose #1.

I think it's scenario 3. This thing was overblown in my opinion but was treated with an abundance of caution which to an extent is understandable. You have to get ahead of these things before they get really bad or you will have a disaster on your hands that you can't control. The media and the majority of people who think they are smart will claim this was a disaster averted. Others will think it was totally overblown. And the funny thing is both sides will point to the same numbers to justify their position. Social distancing made the numbers good! This thing was never bad, that's why the numbers look good! The truth is somewhere inbetween. Social Distancing helped but if this thing was as bad and deadly as everyone initially feared the numbers would have still gotten really bad.

 

[Rev]

I think the closest is #3 but with some additions. I think peoples shopping habits will be altered. I think stockpiling will be a regular thing now.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I’m going to suggest another scenario. Did and does the governments program of monetizing presumed losses by business and private sector during this crises change the way that citizens and businesses will view the responsibility of government in the future. Will they see themselves as requiring laws to compensate everyone for their hard luck and not being able accept responsibility for themselves.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think the closest is #3 but with some additions. I think peoples shopping habits will be altered. I think stockpiling will be a regular thing now.

You know the number of doomsday prepers will have skyrocketed after this thing. I definitely think people will start trying to have masks and such in their home. Something most of us have never thought about doing before now. Hell you can already see a market for them developing online.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I’m going to suggest another scenario. Did and does the governments program of monetizing presumed losses by business and private sector during this crises change the way that citizens and businesses will view the responsibility of government in the future. Will they see themselves as requiring laws to compensate everyone for their hard luck and not being able accept responsibility for themselves.

To me the big difference is you can't expect people to take responsibility for something the government forced on people. IF a crisis like this hit and everyone was allowed to still work and operate as usual it might be a different discussion. But when the government steps in and says "you can't leave your home" then I think they have an obligation to compensate you for that.

 

[NoDak]

I think the closest is #3 but with some additions. I think peoples shopping habits will be altered. I think stockpiling will be a regular thing now.

Probably. A guy I went to high school with has been bitching nonstop over the stupidity of people hoarding toilet paper and whatnot on Facebook. Then yesterday posted about not going to be caught again, and went and loaded up on a shit ton of hamburger, pork, chicken, steak, ribs, etc...

I commented that this was why there were shortages. People going out to panic buy. Said he was a hypocrite, and laughed at him. He told me to go fuck myself and unfriended me. People roasted him after that about exactly what I said. I was still able to read everything because he's friends with my wife still.



Dude was and still is an idiot.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I’m going to suggest another scenario. Did and does the governments program of monetizing presumed losses by business and private sector during this crises change the way that citizens and businesses will view the responsibility of government in the future. Will they see themselves as requiring laws to compensate everyone for their hard luck and not being able accept responsibility for themselves.

Unfortunately, I think we're already there for a lot of people. We know one party has been pushing that for a while now.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Probably. A guy I went to high school with has been bitching nonstop over the stupidity of people hoarding toilet paper and whatnot on Facebook. Then yesterday posted about not going to be caught again, and went and loaded up on a shit ton of hamburger, pork, chicken, steak, ribs, etc...

I commented that this was why their were shortages. People going out to panic buy. Said he was a hypocrite, and laughed at him. He told me to go fuck myself and unfriended me. People roasted him after that about exactly what I said. I was still able to read everything because he's friends with my wife still.



Dude was and still is an idiot.

I agree, wish everyone would stop the hoarding. It's what is creating the problem.

 

[L.T. Fan]

To me the big difference is you can't expect people to take responsibility for something the government forced on people. IF a crisis like this hit and everyone was allowed to still work and operate as usual it might be a different discussion. But when the government steps in and says "you can't leave your home" then I think they have an obligation to compensate you for that.

I’m not condemning the action of government it probably can be justified rather what I am asking is the generous reaction of government going to create a subsequent reaction for almost any hard luck contingency.

Here’s one example of how a person has just been convinced to not go back to work. It’s a 16.00 per hour employee who now gets $600.00 per week from the stimulus plus say $350.00 per week for unemployment benefits. Will that individual want to get back in the work force?

Additionally will they be conditioned to think this circumstance is best even though it may curb a willingness to try to improve their situation by continuing to pursue opportunities that will give them better earnings.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Unfortunately, I think we're already there for a lot of people. We know one party has been pushing that for a while now.

That’s true but the numbers have dramatically reduced for the past few months and will the monetizing now push back the numbers to unemployment figures that were in place months before but now with a much harder chance of getting back the progress.

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

Got our sixth confirmed case in my facility today. Third in the past two days.

This is after several weeks of counter measures inside the building and no confirmed cases.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Got our sixth confirmed case in my facility today. Third in the past two days.

This is after several weeks of counter measures inside the building and no confirmed cases.

Someone must have had an encounter off the job schedule.

 

[Sheik]

I plan to smoke regular weed again tonight.

I’ll have more more to add later.

 

[boozeman]

Someone must have had an encounter off the job schedule.

They could have picked it up anywhere. My point was we had a quiet several weeks, now three confirmations in three days.

That tells me people have been lazy, complacent you name it regarding the reasoning behind stay at home direction.

But hey, let's open everything back up. Sounds brilliant.