The Coronavirus Thread...

[lostxn]

Well yeah when we have partisan little clown bitches like lostxn that parrot their party line without acknowledging their side wasted weeks calling the President racist for saying Chinese virus we/re gonna have a problem

Now I'm a "partisan little clown bitch."

What does that make you?

 

[lostxn]

The reason he started calling it the Chinese virus is CCP propaganda started claiming we started it you commie stooge

Oh, now I'm a "commie stooge"?

Wow you are super salty tonight.

 

[jsmith6919]

Oh, now I'm a "commie stooge"?

Wow you are super salty tonight.

Yep sure am, we're both around dfw. I'm calling you out for the ring after @NoDak and @Stasheroo get done

 

[Stasheroo]

Yep sure am, we're both around dfw. I'm calling you out for the ring after @NoDak and @Stasheroo get done

 

[jsmith6919]

Now I'm a "partisan little clown bitch."

What does that make you?

The one calling you that you little partisan clown bitch

 

[lostxn]

Seems to me both sides are treating their party like its a sports team with ridiculous emotional devotion and nothing but shit talk for the other team who they despise & I wish we could stop that shit

I find neither party indefensible

IMHO, the whole "but he said this but they said that" is a never ending black hole in which we could volley back and forth in perpetuity.

Somehow, we have to find a way to intelligently discuss the issues that matter in a constructive way but it seems to be a pipe dream since it appears everyone is having more fun trying to pwn one another and feel superior. I guess thats easier than trying to actually do something or attempt to solve a problem and maybe thats why we do it, because its a distraction that alleviates ones responsibly in the matter because we can always blame the D or the R

I think you're very right about this. The problem is from my perspective it's very hard to rally around a guy who was elected as a fuck you to people like me. Then you see the lies and mistakes and you're screaming at the TV to stop the madness. Then when things blow up and you're told "well nobody thought it was gonna be bad." It's just super hard to swallow. So no, I won't be rallying around this President. But what does it matter? I certainly don't care what people believe in if they're sick.

 

[jsmith6919]

around a guy who was elected as a fuck you to people like me.

You really don't realize how many of us have said fuck it for years until yall tried to cram Gamgam down our throats. Fuck you all!

 

[lostxn]

Yep sure am, we're both around dfw. I'm calling you out for the ring after @NoDak and @Stasheroo get done

Are you asking me to box you? Have you lost your fucking mind? I have no interest in fighting you or anyone else. I'm an adult. Grow up.

 

[jsmith6919]

Are you asking me to box you? Have you lost your fucking mind? I have no interest in fighting you or anyone else. I'm an adult. Grow up.

Honest question, have you ever been in a fist fight in your life? I'm betting no

 

[yimyammer]

Well yeah when we have partisan little clown bitches like lostxn that parrot their party line without acknowledging their side wasted weeks calling the President racist for saying Chinese virus we/re gonna have a problem

We can always find reasons to attack, I just think we'd all benefit by giving each other a little grace, even if only occasionally. You both have valid points imo, I wish y'all could have more empathy and not be at each others throats but hey, its a free country, y'all can do whatever you like. No hate toward either of y'all, just a likely unpopular opinion on my part

 

[yimyammer]

I think you're very right about this. The problem is from my perspective it's very hard to rally around a guy who was elected as a fuck you to people like me. Then you see the lies and mistakes and you're screaming at the TV to stop the madness. Then when things blow up and you're told "well nobody thought it was gonna be bad." It's just super hard to swallow. So no, I won't be rallying around this President. But what does it matter? I certainly don't care what people believe in if they're sick.

I feel ya but I dont think anyone should rally around any president. Sure, root for them to succeed for the sake of the country, but they're all fallible humans who inevitably turn into the nations punching bag. It's a horrible job imo, you have to be borderline insane and/or a psychopath to want it and given the divisive state of politics, only the lunatics seem rise to the opportunity.

I think the whole concept of a president might be antiquated and perhaps it's time for a major overhaul to our system built around the bill of rights and separation powers. Perhaps we should have 50+ presidents, one for pandemics, one for technology, one energy, etc, etc. No one human can possibly be qualified to knowledgeably preside over so many complicated industries and issues.

Is the concept of one leader, aka strong man (woman) an antiquated notion of the past?

I just never have much faith in gov regardless of who's president and have busted ass to find a way to never be dependent upon them while enduring the hoops they make me jump through to do my job and live In this country. I'm never surprised when the gov lets us down because virtually every encounter I've had with a government entity has been abject misery (sans military and the DEA).

its safe to say I'm a bit jaded

 

[lostxn]

You really don't realize how many of us have said fuck it for years until yall tried to cram Gamgam down our throats. Fuck you all!

Well Obama was not voted in to piss off conservatives. He got voted in because he was a moderate Democrat who was tremendously inspiring. He was somebody who a lot of people look up to. I also really liked what it said about our country that we could vote in an African American as President. But he was intelligent, a tremendous orator, and represented views that I hold almost universally. Were there mistakes? Sure. Was it perfect? No. But overall, he represented the country well and the country did well under his leadership.

I get that he was a Democrat but he was a good President and a better person. Perhaps you will see that in time. Hell I came around on Reagan and Bush Sr and even think Bush Jr was a good person even if he was dumb and a bad President.

 

[lostxn]

I feel ya but I dont think anyone should rally around any president. Sure, root for them to succeed for the sake of the country, but they're all fallible humans who inevitably turn into the nations punching bag. It's a horrible job imo, you have to be borderline insane and/or a psychopath to want it and given the divisive state of politics, only the lunatics seem rise to the opportunity.

I think the whole concept of a president might be antiquated and perhaps it's time for a major overhaul to our system built around the bill of rights and separation powers. Perhaps we should have 50+ presidents, one for pandemics, one for technology, one energy, etc, etc. No one human can possibly be qualified to knowledgeably preside over so many complicated industries and issues.

Is the concept of one leader, aka strong man (woman) an antiquated notion of the past?

I just never have much faith in gov regardless of who's president and have busted ass to find a way to never be dependent upon them while enduring the hoops they make me jump through to do my job and live In this country. I'm never surprised when the gov lets us down because virtually every encounter I've had with a government entity has been abject misery (sans military and the DEA).

its safe to say I'm a bit jaded

Well, outside of a revolution we're not gonna change the structure of the government. I think the best thing we could do is have more parties so you would have to have cooperation between disparate interests to move forwards. But again, that's a pipe dream.

The parties have a vested interest in fighting to the death the way it is. Further the gerrymandering allows people who are pretty ideologically pure to get elected in numbers which is kind of a disaster. They just gum up the works.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I feel ya but I dont think anyone should rally around any president. Sure, root for them to succeed for the sake of the country, but they're all fallible humans who inevitably turn into the nations punching bag. It's a horrible job imo, you have to be borderline insane and/or a psychopath to want it and given the divisive state of politics, only the lunatics seem rise to the opportunity.

I think the whole concept of a president might be antiquated and perhaps it's time for a major overhaul to our system built around the bill of rights and separation powers. Perhaps we should have 50+ presidents, one for pandemics, one for technology, one energy, etc, etc. No one human can possibly be qualified to knowledgeably preside over so many complicated industries and issues.

Is the concept of one leader, aka strong man (woman) an antiquated notion of the past?

I just never have much faith in gov regardless of who's president and have busted ass to find a way to never be dependent upon them while enduring the hoops they make me jump through to do my job and live In this country. I'm never surprised when the gov lets us down because virtually every encounter I've had with a government entity has been abject misery (sans military and the DEA).

its safe to say I'm a bit jaded

If I may. A lot of people see the government as the elected and appointed individuals. They are the least represented group that actually makes up the government. It’s almost paradoxical because these folks have the power but many come and go with regularity and others spend ther time working toward staying in office.

There are government employees that are career individuals and are tremendous examples of serving the nation. They do the actual work in the system and even forego an opportunity to make a lot more in rhe private sector.

I served in one of those positions for several years working within an agency that staved off millions of bank depositors from losing their financial well being and money in the banking system. We all could have had a cushy job in the private sector but instead chose to try to save the banking system and all the depositors from losing their liquid capital.

I am judgmental about elected officials maybe moreso that the public at large but I am very proud of my efforts and those that chose to join me in making a government system function for the public.

 

[boozeman]

and of course the first few responses I read are people attacking Gates for doing this

Fucking-A, you cant win with these psychos

Well done Bill, keep doing your own thing and not wait for the idiots to get on board

Gates has to do this since his master plan of smuggling tracking devices into our bodies via a "vaccine" is way better than relying on people to leave their locations on with their phones.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

and of course the first few responses I read are people attacking Gates for doing this

Can't tell you how many times I've read the socialist types scream that Gates is a capitalist pig who only made his wealth off the backs of poor people. By selling computer software, of course.

I assume there are fewer of those people shouting that now, but you know some won't change their minds no matter what.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think you're very right about this. The problem is from my perspective it's very hard to rally around a guy who was elected as a fuck you to people like me.

I'm curious, what does this even mean, "people like me?"

The truth is, Trump probably wouldn't have won if Hillary hadn't been such a terrible candidate. I don't see how that's very debatable when Trump won states that Obama had won just four years earlier.

I don't think most people vote for someone as a fuck you to anyone. They vote for someone because they think their candidate is better for themselves and the country than the other one.

Point is, maybe you're personalizing this too much.

 

[Cotton]

 

[lostxn]

I'm curious, what does this even mean, "people like me?"

People who are left of center. At least where the center is now.

The truth is, Trump probably wouldn't have won if Hillary hadn't been such a terrible candidate. I don't see how that's very debatable when Trump won states that Obama had won just four years earlier.

I agree completely. It was the most unpopular candidate ever against the second most unpopular candidate ever. How can that say anything but ill about the states of the parties?

I don't think most people vote for someone as a fuck you to anyone. They vote for someone because they think their candidate is better for themselves and the country than the other one.

Point is, maybe you're personalizing this too much.

I would believe that if I hadn’t heard a zillion conservatives tell me they think Trump is a piece of shit but they love that he pisses off the left. I’ve heard people on this board say that. Not sure that makes anybody’s life better though.

 

[jsmith6919]