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jsmith6919

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it astounds me they come out & announce stuff like this. What is the benefit to doing so?

recently in Dallas, the city attorney came out & said he would not to prosecute thefts of personal items under $750 that are stolen out of necessity.

Why the fuck do you announce this?

I am open to him having discretion in unusual and extreme cases but this strikes as a green light for anyone that can read or watch the news to steal and simply say it was out of necessity
Shit like this is why I carry
 

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it astounds me they come out & announce stuff like this. What is the benefit to doing so?

recently in Dallas, the city attorney came out & said he would not to prosecute thefts of personal items under $750 that are stolen out of necessity.

Why the fuck do you announce this?

I am open to him having discretion in unusual and extreme cases but this strikes as a green light for anyone that can read or watch the news to steal and simply say it was out of necessity
So fucking stupid.
 

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Shit like that we should allow open carry.
I am not for open carry. Better put, I would never ever open carry. It's dumb. If you end up in a situation where someone is intent on shooting people, best for them to not know you are a threat.
 

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I am not for open carry. Better put, I would never ever open carry. It's dumb. If you end up in a situation where someone is intent on shooting people, best for them to not know you are a threat.
Yep, I don't open carry either. It just makes you the first target to take out. I'm not going to ever vote against someones right to do so though
 

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Here's my thoughts on consequences for China.
1) We work with our NATO partners and we shut China down as an exporter. No more manufactured goods will be exported from China to first world countries for 20 years
2) Any country we give aid to will lose it if they purchase manufactured goods from China.
3) Any travel from and to China is subject to a 2 week quarantine
4) All debts owed from the US government or private individuals to China is cancelled
5) Any US property owned by Chinese nationals will revert to the US government to be sold at auction
6) We recognize Taiwan as a country and enter into a mutual protection pact
7) We sink the artificial islands China set on in the South China Sea
8) China loses their seat in the UN security council.
9) Several named Chinese officials including Xi Jinping should be recognized as enemies of the United States to be arrested should they step outside China into the free world.

By the way, I like Chinese people fine. Their government is evil and shame on us for enabling them to become so powerful. Time to roll them back 50 years. By the way, this is not something we could accomplish unilaterally. You either do it with Europe or it doesn't happen.
 

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Yep, I don't open carry either. It just makes you the first target to take out. I'm not going to ever vote against someones right to do so though
Yeah, I'm not against people doing it. I just think they are stupid for doing so.
 

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Here's my thoughts on consequences for China.
1) We work with our NATO partners and we shut China down as an exporter. No more manufactured goods will be exported from China to first world countries for 20 years
2) Any country we give aid to will lose it if they purchase manufactured goods from China.
3) Any travel from and to China is subject to a 2 week quarantine
4) All debts owed from the US government or private individuals to China is cancelled
5) Any US property owned by Chinese nationals will revert to the US government to be sold at auction
6) We recognize Taiwan as a country and enter into a mutual protection pact
7) We sink the artificial islands China set on in the South China Sea
8) China loses their seat in the UN security council.
9) Several named Chinese officials including Xi Jinping should be recognized as enemies of the United States to be arrested should they step outside China into the free world.

By the way, I like Chinese people fine. Their government is evil and shame on us for enabling them to become so powerful. Time to roll them back 50 years. By the way, this is not something we could accomplish unilaterally. You either do it with Europe or it doesn't happen.
That would start a war, and fuck it, I’m fine with it.
 

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Here's my thoughts on consequences for China.
1) We work with our NATO partners and we shut China down as an exporter. No more manufactured goods will be exported from China to first world countries for 20 years
2) Any country we give aid to will lose it if they purchase manufactured goods from China.
3) Any travel from and to China is subject to a 2 week quarantine
4) All debts owed from the US government or private individuals to China is cancelled
5) Any US property owned by Chinese nationals will revert to the US government to be sold at auction
6) We recognize Taiwan as a country and enter into a mutual protection pact
7) We sink the artificial islands China set on in the South China Sea
8) China loses their seat in the UN security council.
9) Several named Chinese officials including Xi Jinping should be recognized as enemies of the United States to be arrested should they step outside China into the free world.

By the way, I like Chinese people fine. Their government is evil and shame on us for enabling them to become so powerful. Time to roll them back 50 years. By the way, this is not something we could accomplish unilaterally. You either do it with Europe or it doesn't happen.
I agree with every bit of this except the unilateral thing. I think we should move on this on our own if we have to. They need to pay dearly for this, and I have no faith Europe countries would be willing to take this drastic of an action.
 

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Here's my thoughts on consequences for China.
1) We work with our NATO partners and we shut China down as an exporter. No more manufactured goods will be exported from China to first world countries for 20 years
2) Any country we give aid to will lose it if they purchase manufactured goods from China.
3) Any travel from and to China is subject to a 2 week quarantine
4) All debts owed from the US government or private individuals to China is cancelled
5) Any US property owned by Chinese nationals will revert to the US government to be sold at auction
6) We recognize Taiwan as a country and enter into a mutual protection pact
7) We sink the artificial islands China set on in the South China Sea
8) China loses their seat in the UN security council.
9) Several named Chinese officials including Xi Jinping should be recognized as enemies of the United States to be arrested should they step outside China into the free world.

By the way, I like Chinese people fine. Their government is evil and shame on us for enabling them to become so powerful. Time to roll them back 50 years. By the way, this is not something we could accomplish unilaterally. You either do it with Europe or it doesn't happen.
I would love for us to take a hardline like this against them but theres noway we will. There are too many people in government(on both sides) that have millions+ tied to China
 

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I would love for us to take a hardline like this against them but theres noway we will. There are too many people in government(on both sides) that have millions+ tied to China
If there was sufficient evidence compiled then take it to the world court and get a judgement then levy on all monetary instruments until the judgement is satisfied.
 

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I guess it works both ways. Specifically for times like now where it’s almost promoted to be robbed/mugged, I’d rather have a criminal move on to an easier target.

If you’re more focused on downing the next mass shooter and you’re assuming you’re one of the few armed, sure, but if the majority of the people in the gathering were all open carry, I’d prefer deterrence.

Or, I could move to a nicer town like Lubbock.
That's not a bad point, we were both coming from the scenario where only one, maybe two people are open carrying. If you change that to say even 15% that changes things dramatically and I get that someone would move on to find a softer target
 

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Here's my thoughts on consequences for China.
1) We work with our NATO partners and we shut China down as an exporter. No more manufactured goods will be exported from China to first world countries for 20 years
2) Any country we give aid to will lose it if they purchase manufactured goods from China.
3) Any travel from and to China is subject to a 2 week quarantine
4) All debts owed from the US government or private individuals to China is cancelled
5) Any US property owned by Chinese nationals will revert to the US government to be sold at auction
6) We recognize Taiwan as a country and enter into a mutual protection pact
7) We sink the artificial islands China set on in the South China Sea
8) China loses their seat in the UN security council.
9) Several named Chinese officials including Xi Jinping should be recognized as enemies of the United States to be arrested should they step outside China into the free world.

By the way, I like Chinese people fine. Their government is evil and shame on us for enabling them to become so powerful. Time to roll them back 50 years. By the way, this is not something we could accomplish unilaterally. You either do it with Europe or it doesn't happen.
I don’t think any country could withstand the rise in prices and the lack of products if they stopped commerce with China.
 

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I guess it works both ways. Specifically for times like now where it’s almost promoted to be robbed/mugged, I’d rather have a criminal move on to an easier target.

If you’re more focused on downing the next mass shooter and you’re assuming you’re one of the few armed, sure, but if the majority of the people in the gathering were all open carry, I’d prefer deterrence.

Or, I could move to a nicer town like Lubbock.
That's not a bad point, we were both coming from the scenario where only one, maybe two people are open carrying. If you change that to say even 15% that changes things dramatically and I get that someone would move on to find a softer target
I get the point, but no way am I carrying open in public in the hopes that everyone else will too to make this scenario feasible.
 

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I don’t think any country could withstand the rise in prices and the lack of products if they stopped commerce with China.
Pretty much what I say. We are in bed with them. Kind of hard to paint the backdrop to "make them pay" for a virus that was not engineered.
 

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Pretty much what I say. We are in bed with them. Kind of hard to paint the backdrop to "make them pay" for a virus that was not engineered.
Meh. I think we'd be fine without China. Only thing we need them for is rare earth metals. Our country would be better off if we start making stuff again. Maybe prices will go up and we'll have less stuff but more of our fellow citizens will have good jobs that are well paying and they can take pride in.
 

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Pretty much what I say. We are in bed with them. Kind of hard to paint the backdrop to "make them pay" for a virus that was not engineered.
You wouldn’t have to try to bankrupt the country. Assuming the US and other countries obtained judgements for the death of victims worldwide. They could levy a fine against the country to be over a period of time to extinguish the judgement. It would be foolish to push them over the edge but continued trade and commerce would still allow them incentives to continue a vigorous commerce to pay toward the judgements for a reasonable time to recompense losses for life’s and efforts expended to fight the pandemic.

Edit. This may not be feasible after all. The USA is not a member of the world court any longer. It got past me.
 
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I get the point, but no way am I carrying open in public in the hopes that everyone else will too to make this scenario feasible.
I get the point, but no way I'm going to stop buying Cowboys gear in the hope that everyone else will too to make this scenario feasible.

What's that you say? It's gotta start somewhere?

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