Garrett Watch Thread...

[L.T. Fan]

I think the offense was responsible for a few of our losses. I think we just give Moore a bit of a pass because 1) he's a rookie OC and 2) his overall results were pretty darn good. But he definitely should take part of the blame in the losses at New Orleans, New England, the Jets, the Bills and the Eagles.

For a first year OC the teams numbers Improved substantially. Who knows what losses are attributable to who but the numbers seem to indicate the offense performed better this season.

 

[1bigfan13]

I'll also add this regarding Garrett whining about being saddled with an inexperienced OC.

There were so, so many terrible decisions that Garrett made that were outside the scope of Moore's responsibilities.

Decisions like attempting a 57 yard FG on the opening drive of a game. Or not having your team practice outdoors leading up to a game that everyone knew several days in advance would be played in the wind and rain.

This season was littered with head-scratching, mind-numbing decisions such as those.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I'll also add this regarding Garrett whining about being saddled with an inexperienced OC.

There were so, so many terrible decisions that Garrett made that were outside the scope of Moore's responsibilities.

Decisions like attempting a 57 yard FG on the opening drive of a game. Or not having your team practice outdoors leading up to a game that everyone knew several days in advance would be played in the wind and rain.

This season was littered with head-scratching, mind-numbing decisions such as those.

It’s hard to explain why a team who pretty much leads the league in offense can’t win a game. That doesnt automatically point to the OC as being a problem. One would think that a seasoned coach would not go there.

 

[Cotton]

No one ever does on this subject. If your take isn’t “fuck Garrett” then it gets no play here.

Wonder why that is.

 

[chevycowboys]

Holy shit. What a colossal douchebag.

What an idiot! Exactly why this idiot had to go. The offense was #1 in the league so that wasn’t the problem so why did he use that as a reason? That just blew his cause..

 

[Sheik]

In principle I feel the same way. Ideally if your boss is going to mandate that specific milestones need to be achieved in order to retain your job as a coach, you'd want the opportunity to succeed or fail without a ton of restrictions being placed on you.

HOWEVER.....

After seeing how Garrett snaked his way into the job in the first place by sabotaging the offense in 2010, I consider this karma.

All's fair, baby.

Finally, somebody understands me.

And this very well could be “what goes around comes around” if all that was true back in 2010.

 

[Clay_Allison]

Just think, if Jason Garrett's offense had produced for Wade the way Moore's offense produced for Garrett, Wade would have made it to the end of the season.

 

[Clay_Allison]

The way I look at it, Kellen Moore was coaching for his job too, and he did a lot better job looking like he should keep it than Pube did.

 

[Texas Ace]

This season was littered with head-scratching, mind-numbing decisions such as those.

His entire tenure was littered with those things, so the guy has no room whatsoever to complain about not being afforded this or that luxury.

In fact, I'd say it's quite the contrary. The fact that the Cowboys just went through their most unsuccessful decade as a franchise is because the guy was afforded the longest of leashes of any NFL coach during that same time period.

Off the top of my head, I cannot recall another coach who accomplished so little, was responsible for so many bad decisions and losses, displayed an inability to adapt and learn, being given so many opportunities to stick around.

And we haven't even gotten to the fact that a recurring theme under him was the offense becoming stagnant, predictable, slow-starting, and mundane. So if there is ANY place where the guy would have not a single leg to stand on in regards to not being allowed to do XYZ, it's the offense.

This arrogant and oblivious fuck has his head so far up his ass that he doesn't realize that he was the beneficiary of being given too much, not the contrary as he has come to believe.

 

[boozeman]

He was given that opportunity and failed. How many more years does he need to prove himself as a play caller? I mean, Callahan called plays, and then Moore was brought in to call plays, and that failed. All of the other years when Garrett was calling plays failed, too. Seems to be a consistency here.

When the offense pulls the kind of production it did, the issue was managing the flow of football games.

And as the head coach, he should have had the ability to intervene and guide the team as momentum shifts and the like become evident during a game. Most of our losses had that kind of misguidance as the root cause.

Only a gutless turd says he didn't win more because of a first year coordinator.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I wonder why guys like Landry, Parcells, and Jimmy Johnson didn't bitch that they didn't get to call their own plays.

It's almost as if good coaches can win while someone else calls plays.

Fuck Garrett. Full of shit slimy weasel trying say anything to save his fucking skin.

He had a zillion fucking chances here. No coach outside of Marvin Lewis gets ten fucking years at a place without actually winning.

Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

 

[boozeman]

0:52-1:32

"This is not my fault"

Cross Zimmer off the list. Unless he does something completely irresponsible this weekend, Vikings' ownership is saying he comes back for the final year of his contract.

 

[Rev]

Finally, somebody understands me.

And this very well could be “what goes around comes around” if all that was true back in 2010.

We all understood you. Its just the issue that he is crying about is not the reason why he failed. If he wasnt able to cut Maher before he did I would agree. If he wasnt able to talk to the defensive staff to improve their play. I would agree. Same with special teams. Same with in game adjustments. Dont cry about playcalling.

 

[boozeman]

I wonder why guys like Landry, Parcells, and Jimmy Johnson didn't bitch that they didn't get to call their own plays.

It's almost as if good coaches can win while someone else calls plays.

Fuck Garrett. Full of shit slimy weasel trying say anything to save his fucking skin.

He had a zillion fucking chances here. No coach outside of Marvin Lewis gets ten fucking years at a place without actually winning.

Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

When Jerry Fuckin' Jones can come out after the Vikings game and laud the opposition for outcoaching his team, I don't think that means "hey, they exploited our rookie OC".

At the end of the day, if Garrett thinks his deal is around him calling plays, what in the actual fuck is it that he does?

Sounds to me he is screaming to go back into what he thinks he can handle as a coordinator since he failed in the few "head coachey" things he had to do in this past season. If he was a complete walk-around coach, a lot of things would not have happened.

We have been around and around this topic over the last decade. He had his hand held by Sparano his first year, then eventually had Callahan take over, then he got it back and then it was farmed to Linehan.

I would hope the Joneses are smart enough to see this as the white flag, where he basically says he can't handle a whole team.

 

[Sheik]

We all understood you. Its just the issue that he is crying about is not the reason why he failed. If he wasnt able to cut Maher before he did I would agree. If he wasnt able to talk to the defensive staff to improve their play. I would agree. Same with special teams. Same with in game adjustments. Dont cry about playcalling.

I don’t think the guy deserves to stay. I don’t even think play calling was going to save his job.

If I had a boss and he told me my job is on the line and I have to reach certain criteria, and I tell him I want the ability to make calls that may directly alter the results of what I’m being judged on, and he says “no”.

That’s a problem.

Jason should have told him to cram the job up his ancient asshole the second his request was refused.

 

[Cotton]

I don’t think the guy deserves to stay. I don’t even think play calling was going to save his job.

If I had a boss and he told me my job is on the line and I have to reach certain criteria, and I tell him I want the ability to make calls that may directly alter the results of what I’m being judged on, and he says “no”.

That’s a problem.

Jason should have told him to cram the job up his ancient asshole the second his request was refused.

Yeah, but your boss would know how you had failed at that in the past and moved on from you (kinda like the Cowboys did). You think your boss would let you try again after costing the company money?

 

[Genghis Khan]

I don’t think the guy deserves to stay. I don’t even think play calling was going to save his job.

If I had a boss and he told me my job is on the line and I have to reach certain criteria, and I tell him I want the ability to make calls that may directly alter the results of what I’m being judged on, and he says “no”.

That’s a problem.

Jason should have told him to cram the job up his ancient asshole the second his request was refused.

If Garrett thinks he could only succeed if he's in charge of the playcalling, then he should have been fired 6 years ago when it was clear that wasn't working.

Instead they decided to hold his hand and continue to give him chance after chance and he's going to have the audacity to complain that he didn't have the function that they took away from him to save him from getting fired 6 years ago?

That's fucking rich.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Garrett should be slurping their cranks right now for keeping him half a decade longer than he deserved.

 

[UncleMilti]

I doubt he thinks he ever “failed” at it. I’m not arguing that he’s right that he deserves another shot to do it his way. Just that arguing such is not slimy or underhanded. It’s very rational. He’s just wrong (presumably.... I’m not ready to say that Kellen Moore did great either).

And that’s the problem. If he thinks he’s not the problem, then he’s an arrogant shitbag just like his GM/Owner/Carnival Barker. It would explain why his inability or more likely refusal to step outside his box has lead to mediocre results, and sticking his head in the sand when everyone outside his box calls out the failures. Just like his buddy Jeri.

 

[Smitty]

I'll also add this regarding Garrett whining about being saddled with an inexperienced OC.

There were so, so many terrible decisions that Garrett made that were outside the scope of Moore's responsibilities.

Decisions like attempting a 57 yard FG on the opening drive of a game. Or not having your team practice outdoors leading up to a game that everyone knew several days in advance would be played in the wind and rain.

This season was littered with head-scratching, mind-numbing decisions such as those.

For sure, and that’s really why he needs to be gone. If it was all on Moore tanking the offense, he’s have a point, but at the end of the day there were too many other problems.