Game Day Chatter Thread | Week 15 | 12/15/2019 | Rams at Cowboys

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Who knows...if we don't succeed with a top coaching candidate, maybe we go the Jim Tomsula way.

49ers management getting major heat for letting the Jim Harbaugh relationship deteriorate. In comes Jim Tomsula for a year and he becomes scapegoat. As a result, management looks like hero bringing on anyone.

Maybe Jerruh is so uncomfortable with scrutiny, he lets Garrett go and just hires Joe Schmoe.
 
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Drew Brees...another in the list of woulda, coulda, shoulda but dint.

Randy Moss, Steven Jackson, Terrell Suggs and TJ Watt among the others.
 
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pdom said:
Drew Brees...another in the list of woulda, coulda, shoulda but dint.

Randy Moss, Steven Jackson, Terrell Suggs and TJ Watt among the others.
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Gosh its crazy to think about but Brees was the same year we took Quincy Carter. Feels like a lifetime ago.
 
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That quote is a dead giveaway that he's ready to move on. Jerry has a terrible poker face. That's basically him saying Garrett is gone if there's no fairy-tale run (and your guess is as good as mine as to what would qualify as fairy-tale to him).
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I think this is the equivalent of a Super Bowl or bust statement. Fairy tale is the clue here.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
It's the same concept. Guys contract expires and he is free to go or do what he wants. There is no salary cap for assistants either.
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If Garrett doesn't get renewed, he has essentially been fired. It really is that simple.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
Your assuming Garrett has no choice in the matter
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His only choice is to go somewhere else. Which he could do if he were officially fired, too.
 
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In 99% of cases, I would agree with the group who says this isn't a "firing".

But this is that 1% where I believe that you can view it as a firing despite there not being a termination of employment.

Ask any contractor whose employment status isn't renewed and they will all tell you it feels like they were fired because the company or client didn't consider their services good enough to retain, and that is exactly what would be occurring here if Garrett is not brought back.

When you also factor in that Jerry is hoping to keep him around, I think there's a very strong and valid case for considering this a firing even if there is no actual termination taking place.

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Texas Ace said:
In 99% of cases, I would agree with the group who says this isn't a "firing".

But this is that 1% where I believe that you can view it as a firing despite there not being a termination of employment.

Ask any contractor whose employment status isn't renewed and they will all tell you it feels like they were fired because the company or client didn't consider their services good enough to retain, and that is exactly what would be occurring here if Garrett is not brought back.

When you also factor in that Jerry is hoping to keep him around, I think there's a very strong and valid case for considering this a firing even if there is no actual termination taking place.

:geek
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Yeah I won't beat this dead horse further. But I'm not as confident that Garrett wants to be in Dallas as bad as everyone here thinks. I think Garrett has checked out. We all talk about how Jerry handicaps his coaches. I'm not convinced that Garrett isn't ready to move on himself.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
Yeah I won't beat this dead horse further. But I'm not as confident that Garrett wants to be in Dallas as bad as everyone here thinks. I think Garrett has checked out. We all talk about how Jerry handicaps his coaches. I'm not convinced that Garrett isn't ready to move on himself.
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I don't buy that.

First, he loves this team and he loves this city. It's not just his personal ties to the team, but remember his father was part of the organization for a long time. His family is part of the Cowboys family.

Second, he will not be given a longer leash anywhere else. Had he made the types of blunders elsewhere that he's made in Dallas, his ass would've got canned sometime around 2013 at the latest.

I'm sure he wonders what it would be like working for a team where he would be given more autonomy, but all he would do is screw that up because the guy is simply an awful football coach. So it's to his benefit to work for an owner that is willing to give him a shit load of chances for no other reason than he doesn't want to be put in the uncomfortable position of finding another coach.

Even he has to know that he benefits from Jerry's moronic way of running the organization.
 
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^ Yep. And I'd love to know where he thinks he'd get all this autonomy. Does he really think someone with his spare record is going to be handed the keys to the New York (Football) Giants franchise to be in total control? Give me a break.

This bit about Garrett being so disadvantaged here is the biggest crock ever. It's the opposite. He's benefited from Jerry.
 
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pdom said:
Crazy.

While SF, NO and Seattle getting all the attention, it's also plausible that Green Bay gets #1 seed.
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It doesn't matter pertaining to us, but I'd hate to see that fag Rodgers get to another SB because the Packers get to play in 2 degree freezing temps with snow everywhere which gives them a huge advantage to any other NFC that visits there.

Similar to the fucking Patriots.

Call me a bad fan, whatever...but when the playoffs roll around I want to see the best of both teams in a neutral setting.
 
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Texas Ace said:
In 99% of cases, I would agree with the group who says this isn't a "firing".

But this is that 1% where I believe that you can view it as a firing despite there not being a termination of employment.

Ask any contractor whose employment status isn't renewed and they will all tell you it feels like they were fired because the company or client didn't consider their services good enough to retain, and that is exactly what would be occurring here if Garrett is not brought back.

When you also factor in that Jerry is hoping to keep him around, I think there's a very strong and valid case for considering this a firing even if there is no actual termination taking place.

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obfuscation

this could be the Cowboys one word mission statement
 
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