Broncos at Cowboys | Week 5 Game Day Chatter Thread | 10/6/2013

[townsend]

The big, totally fair criticism about Romo is that he isn't a Drew Brees/Aaron Rodgers/Tom Brady.

He's a decent QB that can hang with the best but cannot be depended on to be the team's Messiah.

Much in the way Tim Tebow, "Just won games" when the Broncos were holding the other teams to 14 points. Romo chokes away wins whenever the team asks him to drive down the field time after time.

Eli Manning's fall from grace should perfectly emphasize what happens when you force a good QB to completely carry the team.

That last TD that put the Cowboys in the lead happened in the 4th quarter, late in the game. If the D had stood up for once that game, it would have been considered "clutch". Instead the Broncos walked right back down the field, and we had to ask Romo to do it all over again.

 

[Bob Roberts]

Now he's Jeff Garcia.

By tomorrow he'll be Cade McNown

 

[boozeman]

Eli Manning's fall from grace should perfectly emphasize what happens when you force a good QB to completely carry the team.

Eli's fall from grace has nothing to do with being "forced to carry the team". He's going full idiot and making bad decisions because he feels had has to. Big difference.

Romo has had that feeling of anxiety since day one. And even does it at times when he doesn't have to feel that way.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Now he's Jeff Garcia.

By tomorrow he'll be Cade McNown

Seriously.

 

[Deuce]

Eli's fall from grace has nothing to do with being "forced to carry the team". He's going full idiot and making bad decisions because he feels had has to. Big difference.

Romo has had that feeling of anxiety since day one. And even does it at times when he doesn't have to feel that way.

You mean like up 21 against Detroit last year?

 

[boozeman]

Holy crap Mike Smith screwed the pooch with that series. No points. Wow.

 

[Bob Roberts]

Matty Ice and crew, ladies and gentlemen

 

[data]

Now he's Jeff Garcia.

By tomorrow he'll be Cade McNown

Seriously.

I'm not insinuating that Romo's the caliber of Jeff Garcia, Jim Zorn, Dave Krieg, et al...

...I'm just dismayed how so many of QBs have had that one season where it came together and they made a Super Bowl or at least a Championship Game. At least a Champ Game appearance seems to be passed out like Halloween candy.

Looking throughout modern NFL History with moderately successful QBs, I can really only find Warren Moon, Ken O'Brien, Bobby Hebert and Jeff Garcia.

Sucks to be Romo

 

[bbgun]

Falcons a paper tiger

 

[data]

You mean like up 21 against Detroit last year?

24 point lead (27-3).

 

[Genghis Khan]

Ballsy but dumb call to go for it. The general rule should be you kick the field goal if you can reduce the nber of scores you need to catch up. Here, a field goal turns it from a two possession game to a one possession game. You kick the field goal there. No brainer.

 

[Rev]

F Romo but hes better than some people are giving him credit for. Just sub for him in a big game.

 

[Bob Roberts]

Are there any more humiliating ways we can lose, or have we exhausted them all?

 

[data]

Are there any more humiliating ways we can lose, or have we exhausted them all?

I saw one last night that hasn't happened yet to us.

Chargers had a FG blocked and it bounced right into the hands of a Charger, who then ran for a 1st down.

Although that gets beat by how we lost to Washington during the Vanderjagt years when we facemasked Sean Taylor during the runback, giving the Redskins one play remaining with 00:00 seconds remaining. A kicker we had cut earlier (Nick Novak, I think) drills a 50 yarder to win the game.

 

[Carp]

Mornhingweg is doing a great job tonight...impressed with both him and Smith.

 

[Carp]

WTF is happening? Camera angle sucks.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I'm not insinuating that Romo's the caliber of Jeff Garcia, Jim Zorn, Dave Krieg, et al...

...I'm just dismayed how so many of QBs have had that one season where it came together and they made a Super Bowl or at least a Championship Game. At least a Champ Game appearance seems to be passed out like Halloween candy.

Looking throughout modern NFL History with moderately successful QBs, I can really only find Warren Moon, Ken O'Brien, Bobby Hebert and Jeff Garcia.

Sucks to be Romo

Romo has never been given a good head coach.

That said, I'm can't believe you are right. Maybe it comes down to what you think about certain
QBs, but off the top of my head: what about Steve bartkowski, Bert jones, Brian sipe, joe ferguson, Archie manning, pat Hayden, Richard Todd, Steve Grogan, Neil lomax, and I'd guess there's more. I could be wrong but I don't remember any of those guys in a conference championship.

 

[boozeman]

Romo has never been given a good head coach.

That said, I'm can't believe you are right. Maybe it comes down to what you think about certain
QBs, but off the top of my head: what about Steve bartkowski, Bert jones, Brian sipe, joe ferguson, Archie manning, pat Hayden, Richard Todd, Steve Grogan, Neil lomax, and I'd guess there's more. I could be wrong but I don't remember any of those guys in a conference championship.

Pat Haden lost to us in the 1978 NFCC.

So let me kind of understand here...what was the point of bringing up middling QBs like this again?

 

[Genghis Khan]

Pat Haden lost to us in the 1978 NFCC.

So let me kind of understand here...what was the point of bringing up middling QBs like this again?

I guess I thought that was Ferrigamo. Anyway, not much point if you ask me but Phil seems to think that Romo has had less post season success than almost every decent or better QB in history save a couple. I just can't believe that's true based on my own admittedly faulty memory.

Romo's career isn't even over yet so all of this is pretty much moot at the moment anyway.

 

[data]

I guess I thought that was Ferrigamo. Anyway, not much point if you ask me but Phil seems to think that Romo has had less post season success than almost every decent or better QB in history save a couple. I just can't believe that's true based on my own admittedly faulty memory.

Romo's career isn't even over yet so all of this is pretty much moot at the moment anyway.

It's not a criticism of Romo - really I'm just exasperated and you'd think that, one of these years, it will finally be our year where it comes together. Don't tell me we had a Romo and the best success we'll ever see is the Divisional Playoffs.