Jaworski on Colin Kaepernick

[boozeman]

"I truly believe Colin Kaepernick could be one of the greatest quarterbacks ever." - Ron Jaworski on SportsCenter today

 

[Smitty]

Cool thread, bro.

 

[Genghis Khan]

"I truly believe Colin Kaepernick could be one of the greatest quarterbacks ever." - Ron Jaworski on SportsCenter today

People have gotten way too out in front of these young QBs. Particularly when several of them have achieved early success in large part through gimmicky offenses.

This statement here is especially retarded.

 

[Simpleton]

Kaepernick has absolutely amazing physical tools, great pocket presence/feel and he has an amazing QB coach mentoring him and tailoring an offense to his strengths. This comment is probably going a bit too far but I can see what he's thinking.

 

[Texas Ace]

People have gotten way too out in front of these young QBs. Particularly when several of them have achieved early success in large part through gimmicky offenses.

This statement here is especially retarded.

I agree 100%.

As far as I'm concerned, Kaepernick, RG3, and Russell Wilson all have plenty left to prove. Of those 3, I like Wilson the most, but he too benefited from a read-option playbook that helped to dumb things down.

The league will figure it out like they always do and these QB's are all going to be forced to do with their arm while having to make all the throws and reads.

Time will tell if these guys are legit. Look at Cam Newton - his 1st and 2nd seasons were like night and day.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

Kaepernick has absolutely amazing physical tools, great pocket presence/feel and he has an amazing QB coach mentoring him and tailoring an offense to his strengths. This comment is probably going a bit too far but I can see what he's thinking.

He still can't read coverages to save his life. If you asked him to strictly be a pocket passer and not run, he'd be an epic bust. The only reason he had success was because he's a run first guy who played in a gimmick offense.

 

[L.T. Fan]

He still can't read coverages to save his life. If you asked him to strictly be a pocket passer and not run, he'd be an epic bust. The only reason he had success was because he's a run first guy who played in a gimmick offense.

You are right he does have a lot to learn but he is doing quite well with his skills. In a couple of years if he doesn't get sidelined with injury he will be a top flight QB.

 

[Deuce]

He still can't read coverages to save his life. If you asked him to strictly be a pocket passer and not run, he'd be an epic bust. The only reason he had success was because he's a run first guy who played in a gimmick offense.

Why would you ask a QB with his skill set to only be a pocket passer? You don't draft him without a plan in place of how to use him. He's quite good and I've seen him make a ton of big time throws already. He and his "gimmick offense" are going to be a problem for a while. I fear him much more than RG3 simply because he can stay on the field.

 

[Deuce]

Time will tell if these guys are legit. Look at Cam Newton - his 1st and 2nd seasons were like night and day.

Actually, his 2nd season wasn't that bad. Look at the 2nd half, he made adjustments to his game after the league adjusted to him and he was quite effective.

 

[Simpleton]

Why would you ask a QB with his skill set to only be a pocket passer? You don't draft him without a plan in place of how to use him. He's quite good and I've seen him make a ton of big time throws already. He and his "gimmick offense" are going to be a problem for a while. I fear him much more than RG3 simply because he can stay on the field.

He's built for longevity much more than RG3 is with his height/weight, I also think he's better at making traditional passes down the field from the pocket that aren't reliant on the deception of the read option.

 

[Rev]

He's built for longevity much more than RG3 is with his height/weight, I also think he's better at making traditional passes down the field from the pocket that aren't reliant on the deception of the read option.

Hush your mouth.

 

[Clay_Allison]

He's built for longevity much more than RG3 is with his height/weight, I also think he's better at making traditional passes down the field from the pocket that aren't reliant on the deception of the read option.

You're really saying CK has a better arm for throwing downfield than RG3?

 

[Simpleton]

You're really saying CK has a better arm for throwing downfield than RG3?

That's not exactly what I said but yes I think Kaepernick has a stronger arm.

What I meant was that from what I've seen Kaepernick is better at taking the snap, standing in the pocket in a traditional sense without the read option action and making throws downfield, not necessarily bombs, but in the intermediate as well.

 

[Clay_Allison]

That's not exactly what I said but yes I think Kaepernick has a stronger arm.

What I meant was that from what I've seen Kaepernick is better at taking the snap, standing in the pocket in a traditional sense without the read option action and making throws downfield, not necessarily bombs, but in the intermediate as well.

I have to disagree, from what I've seen and (mostly) what I read in draft guides when RG3 came out, the guy has an A+ arm on the same level as Flacco. Maybe it was hype but I've seen him throw it very far with accuracy, I haven't seen enough of CK but I've never heard people talking up his arm.

 

[Deuce]

I have to disagree, from what I've seen and (mostly) what I read in draft guides when RG3 came out, the guy has an A+ arm on the same level as Flacco. Maybe it was hype but I've seen him throw it very far with accuracy, I haven't seen enough of CK but I've never heard people talking up his arm.

I don't know if he's going to beat RG3 or Flacco in a long toss contest or anything, but he has quite a bit of zip on his passes.

 

[skidadl]

RG3 has a much prettier throw. The guy has great form and seems to get the ball downfield effortlessly.

I don't have predictions on who will be the best long-term quarterback. That is just my observation for what I see now.

Both of them supreme athletes.

 

[Simpleton]

I think RG3 has a more accurate long ball but I think Kaepernick's arm might be stronger. I know Kaepernick's arm is stronger in the intermediate areas, or maybe it just seems to be because he's better in that range. I agree that RG3's form is much better and that's probably why he's more accurate on the deep ball.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I think RG3 has a more accurate long ball but I think Kaepernick's arm might be stronger. I know Kaepernick's arm is stronger in the intermediate areas, or maybe it just seems to be because he's better in that range. I agree that RG3's form is much better and that's probably why he's more accurate on the deep ball.

RG3 also has a longer frame and arm, and he makes the most of it. He reminds me of Randall Cunningham, though I'm not sure anyone has or had an arm like Cunningham. I swear he could throw from end zone to end zone.

 

[1bigfan13]

I agree 100%.

As far as I'm concerned, Kaepernick, RG3, and Russell Wilson all have plenty left to prove. Of those 3, I like Wilson the most, but he too benefited from a read-option playbook that helped to dumb things down.

The league will figure it out like they always do and these QB's are all going to be forced to do with their arm while having to make all the throws and reads.

Time will tell if these guys are legit. Look at Cam Newton - his 1st and 2nd seasons were like night and day.

IMO, Russell Wilson is more of a passer than the other two. His mobility and scrambling ability are used more as a compliment to his game rather than being the focal point of the Seattle game plan like you see with RGIII and Kaepernick.

Russell scrambles to buy time and picks up yards when they are there. Only a small part of Seattle's offense is read option.

 

[1bigfan13]

I watched RG3 a lot during his college years and from what I saw he has a very accurate arm on down field throws.

Kaepernick appears to have more zip but when it comes to timing and accuracy I think RG3 has him beat.