Cowboys trade for Bills QB Matt Cassel

[Stars]

Seems obvious to me that Cassel is going to start over Weeden in a few weeks. Most of us here know what Weeden is and what he is: isn't very good. I've dogged him mercilessly and I think he gets scared in the moment. Also, he has a giant freakish mutant head. The bad part of it, is that Dallas knew he was shit, but gambled on Romo not getting hurt. Now they are over a barrel, with a good team and no one to run it. You damn right they are hoping for a miracle with this pickup, and they paid for it.

That being said, I have more faith in Cassel keeping this team around .500 until Romo gets back, than I do Weeden. I am praying for one more win against the Falcons at our house, then who knows where this thing is going. Still have a great chance to make the playoffs if we just play conservative, no turnover football. I'm not sure who is good in the east anymore, including us. 9-7 might end up taking our division.

 

[chevycowboys]

There was one of the beat writers yesterday (can't remember which one) that was saying that had Stephen not gotten in the way of Jerry (Manziel) this wouldn't be an issue right now.

Yeah but we wouldn't have Martin...Not sure what this team would have looked like last year or now.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Seems obvious to me that Cassel is going to start over Weeden in a few weeks. Most of us here know what Weeden is and what he is: isn't very good. I've dogged him mercilessly and I think he gets scared in the moment. Also, he has a giant freakish mutant head. The bad part of it, is that Dallas knew he was shit, but gambled on Romo not getting hurt. Now they are over a barrel, with a good team and no one to run it. You damn right they are hoping for a miracle with this pickup, and they paid for it.

If they thought Cassel was better then Weeden why didn't they pick Cassel up when the Bills cut him?

 

[Smitty]

He was acquired to compete with Tarvaris Jackson.

They were throwing shit at a wall hoping one stuck...eventually did with Russell Wilson.

Still a completely different situation than this one. Iamtdg is correct about that.

 

[Jiggyfly]

He was acquired to compete with Tarvaris Jackson.

They were throwing shit at a wall hoping one stuck...eventually did with Russell Wilson.

Yeah that's why I was laughing about them proclaiming him as a franchise QB.

He was a calculated gamble that they pumped up a bit.

 

[Cotton]

Franchise vocal uh no.

Seattle's front office later stated they had already picked up a potential franchise quarterback in the draft by acquiring Whitehurst with the 2011 pick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Whitehurst

 

[Angrymesscan]

Name one team in the last 10 years that has spent a 5th round pick on a backup QB in a trade. Just one.

On April 2, 2013, the Seahawks traded Flynn to the Oakland Raiders for a 2014 5th round pick and a conditional 2015 draft pick.[21][22][23] He was brought in to compete with 2013 NFL Draft fourth round pick Tyler Wilson and 2011 NFL Draft supplemental third round pick Terrelle Pryor for the starting quarterback position,[24] with Pryor winning the starting job in preseason.

 

[Cotton]

On April 2, 2013, the Seahawks traded Flynn to the Oakland Raiders for a 2014 5th round pick and a conditional 2015 draft pick.[21][22][23] He was brought in to compete with 2013 NFL Draft fourth round pick Tyler Wilson and 2011 NFL Draft supplemental third round pick Terrelle Pryor for the starting quarterback position,[24] with Pryor winning the starting job in preseason.

I've already addressed that. Completely different scenario. I should have added the caveat "mid season" to my statement. There is a huge difference between adding a QB before the season to compete versus adding one mid season as a backup/insurance role.

 

[bbgun]

I've dogged him mercilessly and I think he gets scared in the moment. Also, he has a giant freakish mutant head.

you don't have confidence in that bloated face?

 

[townsend]

Has there ever been a QB take the reins of a team without an offseason there, with a successful outcome?

 

[Jiggyfly]

Seattle's front office later stated they had already picked up a potential franchise quarterback in the draft by acquiring Whitehurst with the 2011 pick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Whitehurst

Potential franchise QB.

This is what you said.

Not even remotely the same situations. Whitehurst was believed by the organization to be their future franchise QB and Flynn was brought in to compete for a starting job before the season even started. Neither was brought in to be insurance.

He was not even automatically named the starter over Tavaris Jackson does that scream franchise QB to you?

But anyway you got me it's hard to go against anything posted 3rd person in Wiki.

 

[dallen]

Has there ever been a QB take the reins of a team without an offseason there, with a successful outcome?

Favre didn't sign with the Vikings until August 18th. That's the best I can think of off the top of my head

 

[dallen]

There's also the time we traded Walsh to the Saints mid-season. I think he ended up around .500 with them

 

[dallen]

Bernie Kosar filled in pretty well for Aikman that one time

 

[Genghis Khan]

Weeden will have a couple starts to show something while Cassel gets acclimated. If he plays well, great. If he sucks out loud, we have another option.

I think that was the goal here. Find as viable an option as you can, just in case. Clearly they preferred Cassel over the free options. I'm fine with that, especially since they have good reason to feel that way. And that means they had to give something up. Lacking tradable later picks next year, they got creative and essentially traded down late in 2017. For the possibility of keeping the season from bottoming out, and not having to turn to guys on the street, they did well.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I feel like this team still has a good shot to make the playoffs if we can just win half our games with Romo out. We're not 0-2. We're 2-0 with 2 division wins in a weak division. If we can win 4 games with Romo out we will be 6-5 when he comes back with a pretty good shot of going 4-1 over our last 5 games - @GB & @Buf are the only ones that really scares me. With average QB play we should easily be able to beat Miami, Carolina, Tampa, and either NY or Philly without Romo. That puts us at 10-6 which could win the division this year. So if the team isn't comfortable with Weeden playing .500 ball or wants to avoid the situation where Weeden goes down and we are truly desperate and forced to overspend to bring in a guy with no time to learn the playbook, I think a swap of late round 2017 picks is a reasonable trade to prevent that. Yes, the team should have addressed backup QB a long time ago, but at this time this is a smart move

It boils down to this, do you throw in the towel now or do you spend a few bucks and future low draft choice to try to stay in the race until the I injured guys get back? To me the answer is obvious. There is a solid core group on both sides of the ball and its worth an investment to try to stay with the game..

 

[L.T. Fan]

If they thought Cassel was better then Weeden why didn't they pick Cassel up when the Bills cut him?

Yeah if the Cowboys had lost faith in Weeden that would have already been dealt with before the season started. The o organization is okay with Weeden at the moment. They are not okay with Moore as back up. The whole catalyst to all this is Romo going down. Weeden was fine in the back up role until Sunday. Suddenly there is no back up hence The Cassel acquisition.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Seems obvious to me that Cassel is going to start over Weeden in a few weeks. Most of us here know what Weeden is and what he is: isn't very good. I've dogged him mercilessly and I think he gets scared in the moment. Also, he has a giant freakish mutant head. The bad part of it, is that Dallas knew he was shit, but gambled on Romo not getting hurt. Now they are over a barrel, with a good team and no one to run it. You damn right they are hoping for a miracle with this pickup, and they paid for it.

That being said, I have more faith in Cassel keeping this team around .500 until Romo gets back, than I do Weeden. I am praying for one more win against the Falcons at our house, then who knows where this thing is going. Still have a great chance to make the playoffs if we just play conservative, no turnover football. I'm not sure who is good in the east anymore, including us. 9-7 might end up taking our division.

Why Is it obvious? Romo will be back in a few weeks. If Cassell hasn't started in three weeks he won't see the field unless Weeden goes down.

 

[Angrymesscan]

Still a completely different situation than this one. Iamtdg is correct about that.

Not so sure, doesn't Cassel also come in to compete with Weeden?

 

[Simpleton]

Weeden will have a couple starts to show something while Cassel gets acclimated. If he plays well, great. If he sucks out loud, we have another option.

I think that was the goal here. Find as viable an option as you can, just in case. Clearly they preferred Cassel over the free options. I'm fine with that, especially since they have good reason to feel that way. And that means they had to give something up. Lacking tradable later picks next year, they got creative and essentially traded down late in 2017. For the possibility of keeping the season from bottoming out, and not having to turn to guys on the street, they did well.

Agreed, the front office wanted a veteran option that they could turn to at some point over the next 7 games if Weeden either gets hurt or plays horrendously, it's not that hard to figure out.