Cowboys sign Dez Bryant to 5 year deal

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I disagree. Cowboys will also hurt if Bryant carries through with his threats.

Secondly, as long as Bryant stays in shape, Bryant would likely get a multi-year, fat guaranteed contract from another team in 2016 even if he were to sit out 2015.

Not sure about the rules about when Bryant can sign a long-term contract, but it sure forced Jerruh's hand when the Cowboys went 0-2 w/o Emmitt. Also, Jerruh paid a king's ransom for Galloway once Irvin was out.
Yes the organization will suffer some with his absence but not as much as him financially. Monetarily he is taking the risk. The best thing he can do now is to suck it up and take the franchise tag money. Assuming an agreement isn't reached tomorrow.
 

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Yes the organization will suffer some with his absence but not as much as him financially. Monetarily he is taking the risk. The best thing he can do now is to suck it up and take the franchise tag money. Assuming an agreement isn't reached tomorrow.
Actually if sitting out forces the Cowboys to agree not to franchise him again in 2016 it could pay off huge for Dez. Instead of getting a franchise tag in the 15 mil range in 2016 he would hit free agency and almost certainly get a 50 mil type signing bonus. May be worth missing a few game checks this up coming year.
 

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Actually if sitting out forces the Cowboys to agree not to franchise him again in 2016 it could pay off huge for Dez. Instead of getting a franchise tag in the 15 mil range in 2016 he would hit free agency and almost certainly get a 50 mil type signing bonus. May be worth missing a few game checks this up coming year.
But you are looking at about $820,000. a pop and in one season if he forfeits 4 games that's over $3. Millions. More than his entire salary last season. Then he had to run the risk of not getting injured the rest of the season or that could lower his value. Again all the risk is leveraged against his own pocket.
 

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The open market for Bryant isn't until next season at the earliest. He is only hurting himself with his current stance and his agent is in line to loose as well if Bryant carries through with his threats.
Only hurting himself? How so? He's applying what little leverage he has in this situation to try to get the deal he wants. I don't see how he's hurting himself at all.
 

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Bryant doesn't have the leverage now that he will have next season (potentially) He will suffer more than the team if he follows up with his threat and in addition he will give the organization a reason to begin to look for a replacement. Every move he makes toward his threats will come out of his pocket.
Next season he could be tagged again. If he works a deal where the team agrees not to tag him again if he signs the tender, then it's better than what he's looking at right now. If the team decides to let him walk, he'll be laughing all the way to the bank. No harm done to him there.
 

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But you are looking at about $820,000. a pop and in one season if he forfeits 4 games that's over $3. Millions. More than his entire salary last season. Then he had to run the risk of not getting injured the rest of the season or that could lower his value. Again all the risk is leveraged against his own pocket.
So he sacrifices 3 mil for the potential at 35 mil more the following offseason. I'd say it could be worth the risk for him.
 

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I don't see Dez doing anything wrong.

He hasn't said anything negative about the Cowboys, but has kept his comments contained to his situation. He's playing hardball as much as the Jones' are.

As for griping about $12 million, get what you can get, especially if your peers (ie Calvin Johnson) got it. More American than apple pie. For Dez, a one-year contract doesn't cut it. He could go Michael Irvin-laying-on-the-turf on us in one hit.
Yeah...if he got hurt he'd have to get by on 12 mil.
 

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But you are looking at about $820,000. a pop and in one season if he forfeits 4 games that's over $3. Millions. More than his entire salary last season. Then he had to run the risk of not getting injured the rest of the season or that could lower his value. Again all the risk is leveraged against his own pocket.
Signing the one-year franchise tender is a bigger risk. Get $12m and then Michael Irvin/Joey Galloway injury happens or just a bad season. No more paydays.

What Dez Bryant is aiming for is like what happened with MB III and Miles Austin -- hell, we may still be paying for those two contracts.
 

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Signing the one-year franchise tender is a bigger risk. Get $12m and then Michael Irvin/Joey Galloway injury happens or just a bad season. No more paydays.

What Dez Bryant is aiming for is like what happened with MB III and Miles Austin -- hell, we may still be paying for those two contracts.
Miles counts 5 million this season.
 

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Only hurting himself? How so? He's applying what little leverage he has in this situation to try to get the deal he wants. I don't see how he's hurting himself at all.
I think I indicated how because the financial loss is all on him.
 

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Next season he could be tagged again. If he works a deal where the team agrees not to tag him again if he signs the tender, then it's better than what he's looking at right now. If the team decides to let him walk, he'll be laughing all the way to the bank. No harm done to him there.
You are taking the approach that he will get paid if he doesn't play? What my premise is that he looses if he doesn't play.
 

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I think I indicated how because the financial loss is all on him.
And the reward can be so much bigger than what he loses, it's his right to use any leverage he has.

He can make up that 3 million fairly easily just look at what Hardy got sitting out a full year.
 

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And the reward can be so much bigger than what he loses, it's his right to use any leverage he has.

He can make up that 3 million fairly easily just look at what Hardy got sitting out a full year.
If he wants to throw millions at the wind that's his prerogative but it's still his loss and risk.
 

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Signing the one-year franchise tender is a bigger risk. Get $12m and then Michael Irvin/Joey Galloway injury happens or just a bad season. No more paydays.

What Dez Bryant is aiming for is like what happened with MB III and Miles Austin -- hell, we may still be paying for those two contracts.
But he doesn't have that leverage as long as the franchise tag Is available.
 

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And the Cowboys risk losing a top level talent in the prime of his career.

There is risk on both sides.
I believe I was clear about the risk being a financial one. I conceded the organization would suffer also.
 
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