Supreme Court rules in favor of same-sex marriage nationwide

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I admit that it's especially tough for some military spouses to have a good career when they move where their husband (or wife, in the like one in a million circumstance where she doesn't marry another service member.) Which can frequently cause the couple or family to be dependent on a single income. .
All I know is that if I was in the military and someone else received more pay for the exact same work I'd be pissed. I hear you about the moving, but there are many members of the military who that doesn't apply to. Who still get paid more but work in one location.
 

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All I know is that if I was in the military and someone else received more pay for the exact same work I'd be pissed. I hear you about the moving, but there are many members of the military who that doesn't apply to. Who still get paid more but work in one location.
I was beyond pissed. As you may have guessed from my long catalog of slights listed above. I was incredibly bitter through most of my enlistment. Not just because of that, but if I had been treated more like my married counterparts, it would have been a considerable improvement in my quality of life.

Thankfully the civilian sector has been much kinder to me. I'm buying a house right now, and thanks to not being married, I don't have to include my girlfriend on any of my applications. My credit is pristine. Hers not so much. If I had been married, it wouldn't matter if I was the only one paying the mortgage (we keep our finances separate)

That damn certificate means her financial history is tied to mine.
 

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What? That's not true at all. When you take 2 individuals and give them one dwelling instead of 2. You eliminate a shit ton of expenses and overhead for the 2 people. Nothing about marriage makes life more expensive unless those two people decide they want to make it more expensive.
It is true in the military and I believe that was the context of that statement.
 

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It is true in the military and I believe that was the context of that statement.
Not necessarily either. My old paralegal was married to a man in the military. He works in an office on a computer in a single city. Now tell me how moving in with his wife made life more expensive? One less house. One less cable bill. One less power bill. One less water bill. All that I can see are expenses going down. Why are the expenses going up?
 

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Not necessarily either. My old paralegal was married to a man in the military. He works in an office on a computer in a single city. Now tell me how moving in with his wife made life more expensive? One less house. One less cable bill. One less power bill. One less water bill. All that I can see are expenses going down. Why are the expenses going up?
I was comparing single versus married in the military. Single men get their housing and meals furnished as well as being in close proximity to work . Married military doesnt have this option for the most part and have to rent or buy housing and foo also commute to the job. Thats the way it is for the most part. If the post has military housing available then the housing allowance isn't paid. There are several scenarios but the allowances are adjusted in accordance to circumstance but overall the married military person will have costs the single one doesn't incurr and that's the difference in the overall pay.
 

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I was comparing single versus married in the military. Single men get their housing and meals furnished as well as being in close proximity to work . Married military doesnt have this option for the most part and have to rent or buy housing and foo also commute to the job. Thats the way it is for the most part. If the post has military housing available then the housing allowance isn't paid. There are several scenarios but the allowances are adjusted in accordance to circumstance but overall the married military person will have costs the single one doesn't incurr and that's the difference in the overall pay.
Married military members get their housing and BAS as well... At least everyone I've ever heard of does. I've never seen a serviceman who didn't get either housing provided or BAH. And BAH goes up when you have dependents.
 

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Married military members get their housing and BAS as well... At least everyone I've ever heard of does. I've never seen a serviceman who didn't get either housing provided or BAH. And BAH goes up when you have dependents.
Yes. That's part of the allowances I was refering to.
 

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Married military members get their housing and BAS as well... At least everyone I've ever heard of does. I've never seen a serviceman who didn't get either housing provided or BAH. And BAH goes up when you have dependents.
Maybe he is still thinking back to World War I...

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Married military members get their housing and BAS as well... At least everyone I've ever heard of does. I've never seen a serviceman who didn't get either housing provided or BAH. And BAH goes up when you have dependents.
I'm not sure what you mean by this but if they live in base housing they don't get a housing allowance.unless something has changed. Not many military facilities have housing accomidations anymore.
 

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I'm not sure what you mean by this but if they live in base housing they don't get a housing allowance.unless something has changed. Not many military facilities have housing accomidations anymore.
I said they either get housing provided (base housing) OR BAH (housing allowance). I didn't say they get both. They get one or the other, but all of them get one or the other. And while I certainly haven't been to every military installation in the country or world, every one I've been to also had some type of housing, whether it's barracks or houses on the installation, or both.
 

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If I ever do read the Bible I'm skipping Leviticus...

Or get some sort of clue of who the bible was addressing, who it was written by and for as well as the context of any scripture that you quote. Christians and non-Christians make the same mistake of taking the bible out of context to prove a point. To someone who has a clue it is pretty laughable. /seriousskid
 

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Or get some sort of clue of who the bible was addressing, who it was written by and for as well as the context of any scripture that you quote. Christians and non-Christians make the same mistake of taking the bible out of context to prove a point. To someone who has a clue it is pretty laughable. /seriousskid
This is true.
 

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I said they either get housing provided (base housing) OR BAH (housing allowance). I didn't say they get both. They get one or the other, but all of them get one or the other. And while I certainly haven't been to every military installation in the country or world, every one I've been to also had some type of housing, whether it's barracks or houses on the installation, or both.
That's a nice way of saying military troops aren't asked to sleep on the street but can certainly be forced to deal with dehumanizing conditions as long as the military provides those conditions.
 

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My boy is 6 months in and absolutely loves the army. Of course he is a positive kid who wakes up everyday being thankful for the opportunity.

"Can't believe that I get to go to school to become a nurse and get paid to do it."
 

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That's a nice way of saying military troops aren't asked to sleep on the street but can certainly be forced to deal with dehumanizing conditions as long as the military provides those conditions.
Actually, this doesn't have anything to do with what I've said or what this conversation is about.
 

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Actually, this doesn't have anything to do with what I've said or what this conversation is about.
The topic at hand as I recall is whether married military's cost is greater than single. My experience is that married is higher and as a result they get allowances to offset what is essentially furnished to the singles.
 

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My boy is 6 months in and absolutely loves the army. Of course he is a positive kid who wakes up everyday being thankful for the opportunity.

"Can't believe that I get to go to school to become a nurse and get paid to do it."
Poor kid. He must really feel like an animal.
 
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