Eatman: Cowboys Move Brent to Reserve/Retired List

NoDak

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I know exactly what it means. Getting drunk and driving while intoxicated is premeditated. So in my opinion, any death resulting from a premeditated felony is murder. I understand that the law doesn't see it that way, but his history of drinking and driving makes me think otherwise.
If you seriously think he purposely tried to kill his friend, which is the definition of murder, then there's not much else to say.

And by the way, drinking and driving is not a felony. So there was no death resulting from a "premeditated felony" that you can pin your murder tag on.
 

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If you seriously think he purposely tried to kill his friend, which is the definition of murder, then there's not much else to say.

And by the way, drinking and driving is not a felony. So there was no death resulting from a "premeditated felony" that you can pin your murder tag on.
Driving under the influence and getting into an accident which results in the death of an individual is a felony in CA. Like I said, I view it as premeditated because he chose to drink and drive. Ad I also said, I understand that the law doesn't interpret it that way. But it makes no difference to me because I view him as a murderer.
 

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I know exactly what it means. Getting drunk and driving while intoxicated is premeditated.
But you are not in your right mind and decision-making is altered, so it's not murder but manslaughter.

Which I believe was the charge.
 

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But you are not in your right mind and decision-making is altered, so it's not murder but manslaughter.

Which I believe was the charge.
Hence why I said the law disagrees. But, the reasonable person willingly made the decision to inhibit his decision making abilities, which is why I have this opinion. I have no sympathy at all for drunk drivers and I view all of them as fucking criminals.
 
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Hence why I said the law disagrees. But, the reasonable person willingly made the decision to inhibit his decision making abilities, which is why I have this opinion. I have no sympathy at all for drunk drivers and I view all of them as fucking criminals.
Well hell he didn't need to go to a judge, all he had to do was go in front of you and he would have been in for life...yikes!! Lol
 

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Well hell he didn't need to go to a judge, all he had to do was go in front of you and he would have been in for life...yikes!! Lol
Why should I have sympathy for a guy who has had multiple DUIs in college and the NFL, one of which resulted in the death of a teammate? Dumb shits like that belong behind bars.
 

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Hence why I said the law disagrees. But, the reasonable person willingly made the decision to inhibit his decision making abilities, which is why I have this opinion. I have no sympathy at all for drunk drivers and I view all of them as fucking criminals.
Your bad opinion offends me to an unreasonable degree and poisons my mind. I consider the fact that you posted it without warning, to be rape. Yes, the law doesn't agree, but I say it's rape. Please turn yourself in.
 

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Hence why I said the law disagrees. But, the reasonable person willingly made the decision to inhibit his decision making abilities, which is why I have this opinion. I have no sympathy at all for drunk drivers and I view all of them as fucking criminals.
So what you're saying is if a woman drinks and gets raped, her premeditated decision to drink makes her complicit in her rape? Idiot.
 

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So what you're saying is if a woman drinks and gets raped, her premeditated decision to drink makes her complicit in her rape? Idiot.
Um, no. She didn't go out and commit a crime. Idiot.

And seeing that vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated is a FELONY, the man is a criminal.
 
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Your bad opinion offends me to an unreasonable degree and poisons my mind. I consider the fact that you posted it without warning, to be rape. Yes, the law doesn't agree, but I say it's rape. Please turn yourself in.
Oh, so the fact that Brent's delayed 10 year prison sentence for the incident means that he isn't a criminal? And the fact that he served a 6 month sentence in jail in 2010 for a DUI means nothing as well, then. Rape that, scmitty. The man is a fucking criminal and should be behind bars.
 

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So if you are sober and get in a car accident and someone dies you're also a murderer then? Because Careless and Imprudent driving is a crime.
Completely different circumstance, and you know it.
 

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Not really, it's just the stigma of drunk driving that makes you feel any differently.
Drunk driving by itself is a crime. Driving sober generally isn't, as long as one is obeying traffic laws. So no, it's not "stigma".
 

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Not really, it's just the stigma of drunk driving that makes you feel any differently.
If you're driving without a license and get in an accident, THAT FUCKING CRIMINAL SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS!! IT WUZ PERMEDITATED!!

~wipes drool~
 

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Gee, mouth breathing much, NoDak? Stop reaching at nonsense. You can't even compare those two.
 

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I haven't looked it up, but I wouldn't doubt that deaths from texting/drunken driving are top 3. More than officer-involved deaths, pitbull deaths, gang-related and Middle East military deaths all combined. Yet, it gets a meh reaction.

Not asking for same punishment as homicide, but something has to be done. Longer periods of revoked license?

As an aside, do crimes like rape or robbery get less penalties if you were raping/robbing drunk?

On the other hand, it probably shortens my commute during rush hour since it takes two driving parties off the road.
 
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Oh, so the fact that Brent's delayed 10 year prison sentence for the incident means that he isn't a criminal? And the fact that he served a 6 month sentence in jail in 2010 for a DUI means nothing as well, then. Rape that, scmitty. The man is a fucking criminal and should be behind bars.
No one said he's not a criminal, just that he's not a murderer.
 

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Oh, this argument again.
 

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No one said he's not a criminal, just that he's not a murderer.
Hence why I said it's my opinion. The fact that I openly stated - multiple times - that the law disagrees, should've clued you in, schmitty. It's not like I'm hiding a bias. I've been openly admitting one.
 
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