Fisher & Co.: Cowboys Sources: No Adrian Peterson Pursuit

[Genghis Khan]

At this point it doesn't seem anybody is willing to trade for Peterson except for Arizona and maybe us, if he isn't traded by the draft the Vikings will lose alot of leverage as both us and the Cardinals will likely take RB's in the first 3 rounds. At that point they either have to trade him for whatever us or Arizona is willing to give, cut him, or try to hold onto him, pay his exorbitant salary and hope he doesn't poison the locker room/half ass it on the field.

Even if we got Peterson I'd want us to draft a RB in the first 3-4 rounds because Peterson is nothing more than a 2-3 year solution at most, so I have no problem going along with our draft like we don't have him, and then if the Vikings lose leverage and decide they are going to trade him for whatever/cut him, great, if not, whatever.

This is pretty much how I feel. Truth is, a 30 year old running back with a huge contract and disciplinary baggage isn't really that valuable.

If we can get him very cheaply with low risk, I'm interested. if not, we're much better off drafting a guy. And even if we land him, he has maybe a couple good years left so a smart team drafts a guy anyway.

 

[L.T. Fan]

At this point it doesn't seem anybody is willing to trade for Peterson except for Arizona and maybe us, if he isn't traded by the draft the Vikings will lose alot of leverage as both us and the Cardinals will likely take RB's in the first 3 rounds. At that point they either have to trade him for whatever us or Arizona is willing to give, cut him, or try to hold onto him, pay his exorbitant salary and hope he doesn't poison the locker room/half ass it on the field.

Even if we got Peterson I'd want us to draft a RB in the first 3-4 rounds because Peterson is nothing more than a 2-3 year solution at most, so I have no problem going along with our draft like we don't have him, and then if the Vikings lose leverage and decide they are going to trade him for whatever/cut him, great, if not, whatever.

You want Petersen, Dallas has McFadden, Dunbar, Randal and Williams, you want to draft an early round RB, Jones wants to draft a QB who will likely go in the early rounds. That is a move that probably leaves you with 6 running backs and probably 2 of your top 4 draft spots gone. The defense hasn't been addressed and only God knows what Jones might give up in draft choices to get Petersen. I would say this has the potential for some bad chemistry.

 

[Simpleton]

You want Petersen, Dallas has McFadden, Dunbar, Randal and Williams, you want to draft an early round RB, Jones wants to draft a QB who will likely go in the early rounds. That is a move that probably leaves you with 6 running backs and probably 2 of your top 4 draft spots gone. The defense hasn't been addressed and only God knows what Jones might give up in draft choices to get Petersen. I would say this has the potential for some bad chemistry.

Every single one of those RB's can be cut with little to no cap ramifications, I don't really hold any of them in high regard and if it was up to me I'd get rid of most of them if I could land Peterson.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Every single one of those RB's can be cut with little to no cap ramifications, I don't really hold any of them in high regard and if it was up to me I'd get rid of most of them if I could land Peterson.

But you would still likely end up with Jones giving up something in the draft choicees for Petersen and if you get a early choice RB coupled with Jones desire for Petty, you will decimate your draft choices for getting top flight defensive picks.

 

[Angrymesscan]

If you get AP you don't draft a RB high in this draft. AP might have little thread (2-3 years) left, but the RB you would draft would probably not see a 2nd contract and you just spent a high pick on a benchwarmer, get one with your 5th or 7th as injury insurance, if you're not sure about the 4 you already have.

 

[Simpleton]

But you would still likely end up with Jones giving up something in the draft choicees for Petersen and if you get a early choice RB coupled with Jones desire for Petty, you will decimate your draft choices for getting top flight defensive picks.

I'm talking about a scenario where Peterson isn't traded until after the draft, and presumably for little compensation. Then I'm saying since Peterson will only be around 2, maybe 3 years, I'd want to spend a relatively high pick on a RB in order to groom his successor and keep him from having to carry it 25 times a game. This is what I would do if I was making decisions, and if I was making decisions Petty would not be a consideration in the first 3 rounds.

If we give up a 3rd for Peterson I'm obviously not drafting another RB in the first 2 rounds.

 

[L.T. Fan]

If you get AP you don't draft a RB high in this draft. AP might have little thread (2-3 years) left, but the RB you would draft would probably not see a 2nd contract and you just spent a high pick on a benchwarmer, get one with your 5th or 7th as injury insurance, if you're not sure about the 4 you already have.

Nor would I but Simp had that in his scenario and that is why I think would be a mistake.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I'm talking about a scenario where Peterson isn't traded until after the draft, and presumably for little compensation. Then I'm saying since Peterson will only be around 2, maybe 3 years, I'd want to spend a relatively high pick on a RB in order to groom his successor and keep him from having to carry it 25 times a game. This is what I would do if I was making decisions, and if I was making decisions Petty would not be a consideration in the first 3 rounds.

If we give up a 3rd for Peterson I'm obviously not drafting another RB in the first 2 rounds.

If you have Petersen and McFadden then a rookie isnt going to see much action initially. May as well wait another season or two to draft a RB.

 

[Texas Ace]

If you have Petersen and McFadden then a rookie isnt going to see much action initially. May as well wait another season or two to draft a RB.

That's not necessarily true for two reasons:

McFadden isn't good enough to assume he can hands down be better than a rookie with ability.

McFadden is so injury prone that it is practically a guarantee that he'll miss time, allowing the rookie to step right in.

 

[Simpleton]

If you have Petersen and McFadden then a rookie isnt going to see much action initially. May as well wait another season or two to draft a RB.

McFadden is basically useless in my mind so I'd have no problem getting rid of him during training camp. I'm about 100% certain I could find a better RB than McFadden in the 3rd or 4th.

 

[p1_]

If you have Petersen and McFadden then a rookie isnt going to see much action initially. May as well wait another season or two to draft a RB.

Thats why the Petersen signing doesn't appeal to me at all. Doesn't make sense for a young team.

 

[L.T. Fan]

That's not necessarily true for two reasons:

McFadden isn't good enough to assume he can hands down be better than a rookie with ability.

McFadden is so injury prone that it is practically a guarantee that he'll miss time, allowing the rookie to step right in.

Then why bother with him at all. Someone in the organization apparently feels otherwise. If Petersen is there also then McFadden won't get that much field time and there's always Randal to take up the slack. If Petersen is pursued there is little point to bringing in a rookie this year. Drop the idea of pursuing Petersen then you have a different mix to consider a rookie but both this year would be a wasre.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

But you would still likely end up with Jones giving up something in the draft choicees for Petersen and if you get a early choice RB coupled with Jones desire for Petty, you will decimate your draft choices for getting top flight defensive picks.

I agree, plus it is such a waste to have a RB sit on the bench for a couple years in a reserve role. The way people need to start looking at RBs is that you have them for their rookie contract and then they are probably toast. With someone outside of the first round that's 4 years. If I'm going to waste 2 of those years with the guy sitting on the bench it's a waste of a pick. Especially when we see 5th and 6th or later guys come into the league routinely and play well.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Thats why the Petersen signing doesn't appeal to me at all. Doesn't make sense for a young team.

It makes sense when you factor in the 34 year old QB.

 

[Texas Ace]

Ed Werder says that one of the factors in putting a cap on what they would pay Murray was the possibility of "an unusual opportunity presenting itself to sign a unique HOF type talent, like an Adrian Peterson, that they'd have the financial flexibility to get a deal done".

Unlike some other hacks, Werder actually is connected at Valley Ranch and I believe this to be completely true.

Not sure if it gets done, but there's no doubt in my mind that the Cowboys are at least going to try and get him.

 

[Cotton]

 

[22cowboysfan22]

I don't see any way we can feasibly get Peterson. This article breaks it down pretty well.

 

[Donpingon]

I'm terrified we give up a 2nd rd pick for AP

 

[Cotton]

I'm terrified we give up a 2nd rd pick for AP

We fucking better not. If we do, it will erase all of the good this FO has done over the last few years.

 

[NoDak]

We fucking better not. If we do, it will erase all of the good this FO has done over the last few years.

Exaggerate much?