NFL Coach/GM Chatter

[Jiggyfly]

Nah.

I just think Roseman is a sniveling Smithers-like little shit toady that has Lurie's ear and won't tolerate anyone else around.

Yeah that too.

 

[Simpleton]

Nah.

I just think Roseman is a sniveling Smithers-like little shit toady that has Lurie's ear and won't tolerate anyone else around.

My thoughts exactly on him.

 

[Cotton]

 

[boozeman]

Don't see Ryan as a fit in either spot. He would probably be better in broadcasting for a year, has the personality for that.

 

[Cotton]

Don't see Ryan as a fit in either spot. He would probably be better in broadcasting for a year, has the personality for that.

Rumor has it that he is interviewing with NFL team as leverage for his broadcasting deal.

 

[Carp]

I hope Rex does games and is not doing pregame stuff...that would be a waste.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Don't see Ryan as a fit in either spot. He would probably be better in broadcasting for a year, has the personality for that.

I disagree, I think he is a great fit for the Falcons.

 

[Cotton]

Saints start firing assistant coaches, but not that one

Posted by Darin Gantt on January 2, 2015, 2:43 PM EST

The Saints began the process of fixing things after a disappointing season by firing some coaches.

But not the one many were expecting, or even from the side of the ball that needs the most attention.

According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, the Saints have parted ways with wide receivers coach Henry Ellard, tight ends coach Terry Malone and assistant defensive backs coach Andre Curtis.

That list, you’ll note, doesn’t include defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, at least at the moment. Whether coach Sean Payton gives the big fella another year (and some actual players) to work with remains to be seen.

 

[Cotton]

Are they going to trade us for Jerry Jones?!

 

[Genghis Khan]

I wonder if that whole Deshawn thing had something to do with the Philly mess.

That kind of blew up on them.

It seems like more of just a good old fashioned power struggle. Roseman and Kelly have been butting heads and at least one report called that environment "toxic." Kelly has repeatedly been declaring publicly that hw has total control over the roster and that appears to bug Roseman.

It seems clear now that the likelihood is Kelly will be gone sooner rather than later.

Jackson is a symptom of the fracture, but not the cause.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Nah.

I just think Roseman is a sniveling Smithers-like little shit toady that has Lurie's ear and won't tolerate anyone else around.

I think that's exactly right. Lacanfora wrote an article a couple years ago that some personnel people league wide have warned coaches to stay away from Philly because of Roseman. He os certainly not well respected.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

It seems like more of just a good old fashioned power struggle. Roseman and Kelly have been butting heads and at least one report called that environment "toxic." Kelly has repeatedly been declaring publicly that hw has total control over the roster and that appears to bug Roseman.

It seems clear now that the likelihood is Kelly will be gone sooner rather than later.

Jackson is a symptom of the fracture, but not the cause.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/1/2/7482361/chip-kelly-eagles-contract-out-rumor-coach

 

[Cotton]

Silence becomes deafening in Philly

Posted by Mike Florio on January 2, 2015, 4:05 PM EST

Two days ago, the Eagles and V.P. of player personnel Tom Gamble had the latest “mutual parting” that was anything but mutual. Reportedly, the Eagles not only fired Gamble but also escorted him out of the building.

The Eagles have said nothing publicly about the reasons for Gamble’s departure. Coupled with coach Chip Kelly’s recent praise for the man who set the table for Kelly’s exercise of final say over the roster, speculation has run rampant that Kelly and G.M. Howie Roseman engaged in a showdown over Gamble — and that Roseman won.

If so, the question becomes whether Kelly will accept that outcome. A plugged-in league source senses based on the current dynamics in the front office that “something big” could be happening. So what could that something big be?

No one knows at this point. Kelly may have told owner Jeffrey Lurie that either Kelly goes or Roseman goes. Lurie may have responded by deciding to move on from Roseman, who previously won a power struggle with former team president Joe Banner, Lurie’s boyhood friend. Or Lurie may have responded by telling Kelly that both guys are staying, and that Kelly remains under contract for three years.

As a practical matter, that may not be an ideal solution. If the Kelly-Roseman dynamic already is becoming the 2015 version of Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke, forcing Kelly to stay when he doesn’t want to will cause only more dysfunction.

Another possibility would be to trade Kelly to one of the various teams with a head-coaching vacancy. An effort to trade Kelly would explain the extreme silence, since any team that would be trading for Kelly would first have to comply with the Rooney Rule by interviewing at least one minority candidate. Once the team(s) interested in Kelly have interviewed at least one minority candidate, a Kelly trade could happen.

I’m not saying a Kelly trade will happen. But if the Gamble firing has driven a permanent wedge between Kelly and Roseman and if Lurie won’t be firing Roseman, trading Kelly could become the only sensible alternative.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

Silence becomes deafening in Philly

Posted by Mike Florio on January 2, 2015, 4:05 PM EST

Two days ago, the Eagles and V.P. of player personnel Tom Gamble had the latest “mutual parting” that was anything but mutual. Reportedly, the Eagles not only fired Gamble but also escorted him out of the building.

The Eagles have said nothing publicly about the reasons for Gamble’s departure. Coupled with coach Chip Kelly’s recent praise for the man who set the table for Kelly’s exercise of final say over the roster, speculation has run rampant that Kelly and G.M. Howie Roseman engaged in a showdown over Gamble — and that Roseman won.

If so, the question becomes whether Kelly will accept that outcome. A plugged-in league source senses based on the current dynamics in the front office that “something big” could be happening. So what could that something big be?

No one knows at this point. Kelly may have told owner Jeffrey Lurie that either Kelly goes or Roseman goes. Lurie may have responded by deciding to move on from Roseman, who previously won a power struggle with former team president Joe Banner, Lurie’s boyhood friend. Or Lurie may have responded by telling Kelly that both guys are staying, and that Kelly remains under contract for three years.

As a practical matter, that may not be an ideal solution. If the Kelly-Roseman dynamic already is becoming the 2015 version of Jim Harbaugh and Trent Baalke, forcing Kelly to stay when he doesn’t want to will cause only more dysfunction.

Another possibility would be to trade Kelly to one of the various teams with a head-coaching vacancy. An effort to trade Kelly would explain the extreme silence, since any team that would be trading for Kelly would first have to comply with the Rooney Rule by interviewing at least one minority candidate. Once the team(s) interested in Kelly have interviewed at least one minority candidate, a Kelly trade could happen.

I’m not saying a Kelly trade will happen. But if the Gamble firing has driven a permanent wedge between Kelly and Roseman and if Lurie won’t be firing Roseman, trading Kelly could become the only sensible alternative.

Why would Lurie fire Gamble (Kelly's guy) only to then turn around and can Roseman? It would seem more logical that Roseman would've been the guy fired initially if Lurie genuinely wanted to keep Kelly and keep him happy. Firing Roseman will only do so much, but the betrayal of firing Gamble will still resonate with Kelly regardless of whether Roseman keeps his job or not.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Why would Lurie fire Gamble (Kelly's guy) only to then turn around and can Roseman? It would seem more logical that Roseman would've been the guy fired initially if Lurie genuinely wanted to keep Kelly and keep him happy. Firing Roseman will only do so much, but the betrayal of firing Gamble will still resonate with Kelly regardless of whether Roseman keeps his job or not.

Roseman will not be fired. Zero percent chance.

 

[boozeman]

There are all kinds of dumb rumors now that Kelly wants out. I don't buy it. He might not like the fact Smithers has more power, but he really doesn't have an out so to speak.

 

[Cotton]

Roseman will not be fired. Zero percent chance.

I think this confirms your opinion.

 

[Cotton]

WTH?

They struck a deal, I guess. Just seems dumb to me to try and restructure yourself out of dysfunction.