Week 16 Gameday Chatter | Colts vs. Cowboys | 12/21/2014

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Genghis Khan

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They don't know. It's just easier to save face by pretending they know that's the case.

Meanwhile that theory involves the OC directly contradicting the head coach, his boss, as if Garrett is having all this happen against his will and has no ability to stop it.

Laughable.

Of course Garrett is all for the commitment to the running game. And he's be running it more himself as well this year.

Situational play calling is something that Linehan has shown an affinity for, better than Garrett, but the whole "Linehan is running the offense against Garretts wishes and Garrett has no input now" is hilarious.
It's not "against Garrett's wishes." It's that Garrett is letting him run it and do what Linehan thinks is best. Kudos to Garrett for getting out of the way. It's good that he found someone he could trust.

Whatever the impetus, we found a combination that works, and I for one am very glad.
 

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And, of course, only at the DCC could we clinch the division and an argument break out.
Yep, only at the DCC can we win the division and have the Garrett haters come out and discredit the job he's done, like we won in spite of Garrett.

Is it to save face? To keep their 4 year agenda of Garrett being an awful head coach and will never succeed here going? Is it because they can't admit they're wrong about him?

He's the leader of this team. His voice is heard most in the locker room. He's the head coach of the NFC East Champs of a team most of you had winning 5,6 games or so. He is Scott Linehan and Rod Marinelli's boss.
 

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It absolutely was not even close to what we've seen this year. The entire interior of the OL is significantly better (3 spots).



The difference is also that we entered a season knowing the OL was a strength, unlike last year, when it really wasn't until down the stretch.nand certainly not the years before.
Notice I didn't say it was as good? I said it was plenty good enough, and it absolutely was. Don't argue points I never made.

As for your last paragraph, that's straight up bullshit.

But whatever. I am very happy with the season so far, I'm not going to spoil it with a useless debate over credit. The dynamic is working right now. Awesome.
 

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It's not "against Garrett's wishes." It's that Garrett is letting him run it and do what Linehan thinks is best. Kudos to Garrett for getting out of the way. It's good that he found someone he could trust.

Whatever the impetus, we found a combination that works, and I for one am very glad.
Again, pretty silly to assume Garrett has no input and isn't contributing anything to the offense.

Garrett has his weaknesses and he found the right guy to make up for those weaknesses and generate what is really a top offense.

Nothing wrong with that. Lots of coaches don't coordinate their own units and would not succeed if they tried.

Still, Garrett definitely has a big hand in the offense.
 

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Couldn't be more proud of these guys. I said many times before the season that the OL was good enough to get us to 10 or 11 wins if used properly, I just never really thought it would happen, especially with the team showing so much resiliency and fight along the way.

It's only a matter of time until this defense catches up with us but this season is a huge success either way. Rebuild the DL in the offseason, hopefully keep the coaching staff together and give it another go next year.
 

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Notice I didn't say it was as good? I said it was plenty good enough, and it absolutely was. Don't argue points I never made.
Just as wrong. No way does the OL performance at the beginning of the year last year steamroll a team like Seattle on the ground. It was too inconsistent on a weekly basis.

Almost as if there were two first year starters at G and C along with a journeyman, that you'd expect to improve in year 2.

As for your last paragraph, that's straight up bullshit.
Really? We entered 2013 thinking we could lean on the OL to the same extent we thought it'd be a strength entering 2014? GTFO.
 

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So what has to happen for us to get home field throughout? I thought if we win next week we would get a bye but apparently that's not 100% true? Wouldn't we own the tie breaker with Seattle since we beat them in the regular season?
 

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So what has to happen for us to get home field throughout? I thought if we win next week we would get a bye but apparently that's not 100% true? Wouldn't we own the tie breaker with Seattle since we beat them in the regular season?
I think both Seattle and Arizona have to lose. Not sure.
 

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So what has to happen for us to get home field throughout? I thought if we win next week we would get a bye but apparently that's not 100% true? Wouldn't we own the tie breaker with Seattle since we beat them in the regular season?
There will be a three way tie with the GB/Detroit winner, and then it goes to conference wins wherein we are 3rd.
 
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Even if that were true, which it's not, that doesn't mean it's a totally different system.
It is very much true, we have never run a pick play under Garrett, just like we never moved Dez around much.

I never sais it was a totally different system but it has Linehan's fingerprints on it much more than Garrett's.

Look I am giving Garrett credit but this offense is much more diversified.
 
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It might have been answered already but why does Seattle get the 1st seed if they finish 12-4 with the same record as us if we win? We have the head to head over them, I know we lose to detroit in tiebreakers but what if they lose?
 

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Uh... No, he's running Garrett's system... Which is of course the Coryell offense derivative.
Said it when he was hired, there is little to no difference between the two systems...they both run their version of the Coryell offense.

But Linehan's fingerprints are all over it.

Garrett didn't suddenly decide he wanted to run the ball more and diversify the concepts in one offseason after years of running the same stuff.

Like it or not, you have to give some credit to the flavor Linehan brought in with him.
 

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Said it when he was hired, there is little to no difference between the two systems...they both run their version of the Coryell offense.

But Linehan's fingerprints are all over it.

Garrett didn't suddenly decide he wanted to run the ball more and diversify the concepts in one offseason after years of running the same stuff.

Like it or not, you have to give some credit to the flavor Linehan brought in with him.
Of course Linehan has added important wrinkles. Any good OC does.

But acknowledging that doesn't sound as good as extreme statements like saying Linehan is "running a different system" or that Garrett isn't involved in the offense anymore. Or that all the positive changes have nothing to do with him.
 

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And does Romo have a shot at MVP now? Rodgers had it locked up a few weeks ago, but maybe not anymore.
 

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And does Romo have a shot at MVP now? Rodgers had it locked up a few weeks ago, but maybe not anymore.
I think he should have a legit shot at winning it. He has just been incredibly good this year and add in all of the injuries he is playing with.
 
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