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This could be nothing but it sure looks like Hatcher is telling Griffin to STFU.
 

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:lol

Now Gruden is backtracking from his comments yesterday, which actually were refreshing.

Sounds like he got a little talking to from Snyder.
 

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Over and over he said he was focusing on SF..."Jay" wanted him to focus on SF, he kept repeating it like a petulant child.
Big time diva alert with that.

From pointing fingers to referencing the head coach had to tell him to get focused on SF...more proof the guy is a self-absorbed turd.
 

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This guy is such a joke, the Skins couldn't have found a better guy to mortgage their future for.
 

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To me, it shows a lack of respect.
What's worse in your opinion, calling the coach by his first name or going on frequent brocations with your head coach?

One could argue that in both instances the player probably sees the coach more as an equal than as a figure of authority
 

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What's worse in your opinion, calling the coach by his first name or going on frequent brocations with your head coach?

One could argue that in both instances the player probably sees the coach more as an equal than as a figure of authority
You can view the party in both instances as an equal and still have respect for them. That said neither is a good practice.
 

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Could Gruden be one and done in Washington?

Posted by Mike Florio on November 20, 2014, 8:39 AM EST

The ongoing dysfunction in D.C. (dysfunction completely unrelated to the government, surprisingly) seems to be getting worse, not better. From Robert Griffin III’s way-too-smiley Bill Belichick homage to coach Jay Gruden acknowledging he went too far by calling out his quarterback for calling out teammates and for playing poorly, the stuff playing out in the public eye suggests that plenty of fireworks are flying behind the scenes.

The biggest question percolating behind the scenes relates to the future status of Griffin, and Gruden.

As to Griffin, it’s becoming more clear that the franchise will be inclined not to pick up the fifth-year option on its erstwhile franchise quarterback. Based on current cap numbers, the team would be committing $18.4 million to Griffin for 2016. Currently, he’s not anywhere close to being an $18.4 million quarterback.

But with Washington already on the hook for $3.2 million in fully guaranteed base salary for 2015 under the final year of his rookie contract, it won’t be a surprise if Griffin remains on the roster — just as Jake Locker did in Tennessee and Christian Ponder did in Minnesota after their respective fifth-year options weren’t exercised earlier this year. A trade is possible, but a release makes a lot less sense, given that Griffin will be paid next year whether he’s on the team or not.

As to the coach, a one-and-done arrangement would seem stunning on the surface. But it would be the fourth straight year and the fifth time in six seasons that an NFL coach loses his job after one year.

In 2013, the Browns gave Rob Chudzinski the heave-ho after one year. In 2012, the Jaguars fired Mike Mularkey after one season. In 2011, the Raiders ran off Hue Jackson following one season as the non-interim coach. The Seahawks fired Jim Mora after the 2009 season, his only year as head coach.

It also happened to former Dolphins coach Cam Cameron in 2007.

Other one-and-out coaches since 1980 include Art Shell (Raiders, 2006), Al Groh (Jets, 2000), Ray Rhodes (Green Bay, 1999), Joe Bugel (Raiders, 1997), Pete Carroll (Jets, 1994), Richie Petitbon (Washington, 1993), Rod Rust (Patriots, 1990), and Les Steckel (Vikings, 1984).

And it has happened in Washington under owner Daniel Snyder. In 2001, Snyder gave the keys to Marty Schottenheimer. After only one season, Snyder kicked Schottenheimer out of the front seat. And out of the car.

With the franchise no better, and arguably even worse, than it was in 2013 under Mike Shanahan and in light of the glaring disconnect between Griffin and Gruden, Snyder could decide to extend the streak of NFL coaches fired after one year to four years.
 

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Florio seems to be arguing for at least keeping RG3 because he is going to get paid regardless, but if they are truly going to move on then having him on the roster makes no sense. His presence alone will be a team divider and whoever the next QB is will start off in dysfunction.
 

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Florio seems to be arguing for at least keeping RG3 because he is going to get paid regardless, but if they are truly going to move on then having him on the roster makes no sense. His presence alone will be a team divider and whoever the next QB is will start off in dysfunction.
Well, Griffin is a cancer no doubt. He's had issues with 2 HC's so far.
Shanahan had the best O suited for RGIII....Gruden is a dumpling and a doofus and clearly has no answer on how to fix the mess that is left behind.
 
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Florio seems to be arguing for at least keeping RG3 because he is going to get paid regardless, but if they are truly going to move on then having him on the roster makes no sense. His presence alone will be a team divider and whoever the next QB is will start off in dysfunction.
The only way dumping the coach after one year and keeping RG3 is if they hire Briles. It's his system and his rapport with the player which made it work in college. It's the only shot they have. Otherwise, dump the player and find your hand picked offensive HC a QB he wants.
 

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The only way dumping the coach after one year and keeping RG3 is if they hire Briles. It's his system and his rapport with the player which made it work in college. It's the only shot they have. Otherwise, dump the player and find your hand picked offensive HC a QB he wants.
The question is whether Briles would even want the job. The dysfunction in Washington is worse than the dysfunction in Dallas. Why would Briles want to leave the comfort of Baylor for the utter chaos in Washington? He has nothing to gain from making that jump. Plus, it wouldn't be long until defensive coordinators figured his scheme out and shut it down, so he'd really just screwing himself. And at 58, 2-3 years in Washington would make it very hard for him to return to college because few teams see a 61 year old coach as a long term solution.
 

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The question is whether Briles would even want the job. The dysfunction in Washington is worse than the dysfunction in Dallas. Why would Briles want to leave the comfort of Baylor for the utter chaos in Washington? He has nothing to gain from making that jump. Plus, it wouldn't be long until defensive coordinators figured his scheme out and shut it down, so he'd really just screwing himself. And at 58, 2-3 years in Washington would make it very hard for him to return to college because few teams see a 61 year old coach as a long term solution.

I don't think he will leave Baylor but I know he has thought about coaching in the NFL. Within the last year in an interview he did state the he did think about the challenges of coaching in the NFL. Its not much but the thought is there.
 

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The question is whether Briles would even want the job. The dysfunction in Washington is worse than the dysfunction in Dallas. Why would Briles want to leave the comfort of Baylor for the utter chaos in Washington? He has nothing to gain from making that jump. Plus, it wouldn't be long until defensive coordinators figured his scheme out and shut it down, so he'd really just screwing himself. And at 58, 2-3 years in Washington would make it very hard for him to return to college because few teams see a 61 year old coach as a long term solution.
The only reason there could be a possibility is the amount of money Snyder could be willing to guarantee to salvage the QB he wanted (and supposedly overrode the rest of the organization in agreeing to that horrible trade).
 

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The only reason there could be a possibility is the amount of money Snyder could be willing to guarantee to salvage the QB he wanted (and supposedly overrode the rest of the organization in agreeing to that horrible trade).
Speaking of money, Snyder is paying the Shanahan staff 10 mil this year, and Gruden himself signed an unusually long 5 year deal with 20 mil guaranteed. So he can fire him, but it'll be painful.
 

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Gruden says the clock is ticking on Griffin, this just keeps getting better and better. Usually it takes 2-3 years for the Redskins to reach this level of dysfunction with a new coaching staff, but this time it's happening right away, so glorious.
 
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