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Sonofabitch..now we may actually be losing a top recruit because of Sumlin's insistence on keeping Snyder(who should have been fired after Duke at the latest) :angry
You're QB commit also visited OU this past weekend.

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Texas athletic director: With new rules, Longhorns would pay each player $10,000


WASHINGTON — The University of Texas will spend nearly $6 million a year to comply with a string of recent legal rulings requiring colleges to be more generous to their scholarship athletes.

That won’t break the bank, Athletic Director Steve Patterson said Tuesday at a forum on the fast-changing business of college sports. But even rich programs like UT’s will be forced to make tough choices in the future if momentum in the courts continues to push colleges to treat their players like employees or semi-pros, he said.

Chris Plonsky, director for women’s sports at Texas, said the school already employs 350 workers to coach and care for the students who play in Austin. The money for all of those jobs, she said, comes from just two sports, football and men’s basketball.

“If we begin to [further] remunerate the participants, that’s going to break that model,” Plonsky said.
Patterson said UT won’t have problems paying the extra $6 million to its players. That money will break down to about $10,000 for each player. The money will cover college expenses that aren’t covered by a traditional full scholarship and give each player $5,000 in compensation for the university’s use of his image.
Colleges will soon be asked to do even more, and they ought to prepare for that, some on the panels argued. Former U.S. Rep. Tom McMillen of Maryland said colleges should brace for profound challenges to their business models in the near future.

“We’re in for a period of dynamic change,” said McMillen, an All-America basketball player for the University of Maryland who also played for the United States in the 1972 Olympics in Munich. “The system has to change. The money needs to be handled differently.”
Other panelists argued that so much is changing in college sports that a stronger governing hand is needed.
“Everybody is in charge and nobody is,” said Lisa Love, former Athletic Director at Arizona State.

McMillen added: “What I’m looking for is a benevolent dictator for college sports.”
USA Today sportswriter Steve Berkowitz said he worries that the price of keeping a program in contention for championships is driving some schools to spend too much. That can put students and taxpayers on the hook for debt or higher fees, all in a gamble that teams will be successful.
Chris Del Conte, Athletic Director at Texas Christian University, didn’t disagree with that. But he and Patterson both said schools should set their own priorities. Those that invest in top-flight athletics should be rewarded, they said.

Del Conte said TCU decided it would make the investments necessary to compete nationally, and ultimately joined a major conference, the Big 12.
“We invested, even back when we didn’t know the future of that investment,” he said. “We decided, and our alumni had decided, that we were going to compete.”

It wasn’t cheap. To renovate its 45,000-seat football stadium, TCU raised $15 million each from five wealthy donors, he said, and added that they had “nickel-and-dimed our way to the rest [of the $164 million bill], with a million here and $5 million there.”
The payoff? Applications to TCU surged to 20,000 a year for its 1,600 spots.
 

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I am not opposed to paying athletes in some forms and circumstances but my preference would be for the university to try to fund it with private donations. I know all the arguments about how the athletes are responsible for a lot of the incomes but I feel the school is still a school first and allow its incomes should be funneled toward furthering education. There would be a lot of good supporters that would help fund an athlete compensation plan.
 
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I think paying all the athletes when only the football and men's basketball teams make money makes zero sense. What is it about the university system that it has to be inherently communist?
 

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I think paying all the athletes when only the football and men's basketball teams make money makes zero sense. What is it about the university system that it has to be inherently communist?
So you think high school players should be paid too?
 

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I think paying all the athletes when only the football and men's basketball teams make money makes zero sense. What is it about the university system that it has to be inherently communist?
A college or university by its nature should be somewhat socialist because they are not generally profit organizations and their intent is to distribute education to the public at large for the most part. A separatist reward system for only certain athletes would be divisive and disruptive to the entire faculty and board of regents.
 

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Now you are describing a great many college programs around the country.
I've never really thought those programs should play with the big boys anyway. The schools that can afford to pay more than a million per year to the HC of the football team can afford to pay minimum wage to the football players.
 

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I've never really thought those programs should play with the big boys anyway. The schools that can afford to pay more than a million per year to the HC of the football team can afford to pay minimum wage to the football players.
That doesn't make sense and is not practical for real life application.
 

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That doesn't make sense and is not practical for real life application.
It's how pro sports works in every other country, hell, that's how it works in Baseball, mostly. We just have a weird, bullshit system here. University athletics are a lot less practical than a smooth progression from amateur to semi-pro to pro.
 

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It's how pro sports works in every other country, hell, that's how it works in Baseball, mostly. We just have a weird, bullshit system here. University athletics are a lot less practical than a smooth progression from amateur to semi-pro to pro.
Sounds like you got it all worked out.
 

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I think paying all the athletes when only the football and men's basketball teams make money makes zero sense. What is it about the university system that it has to be inherently communist?
I'd bet good money that Title IX is one of the primary reasons why all student athletes are being paid.
 

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Sounds like you got it all worked out.
I didn't really have to figure it out since the system already exists in other sports. I just had to see a way of doing things that I think is better and more fair for all concerned.

It works for soccer and baseball, and it works for basketball everywhere but here. I don't see why college football is sacred. Everybody deserves to negotiate for the market price of their labor. Why force them to take barter in a huge corrupt monopoly that would be completely illegal in any other context?
 

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I didn't really have to figure it out since the system already exists in other sports. I just had to see a way of doing things that I think is better and more fair for all concerned.

It works for soccer and baseball, and it works for basketball everywhere but here. I don't see why college football is sacred. Everybody deserves to negotiate for the market price of their labor. Why force them to take barter in a huge corrupt monopoly that would be completely illegal in any other context?
Because you have amateur sports and then you have professional sports. They are two separate things.

Having said that, what you are saying is partially retarded. It seems like you want some institutions to pay players and others not.
 

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Because you have amateur sports and then you have professional sports. They are two separate things.

Having said that, what you are saying is partially retarded. It seems like you want some institutions to pay players and others not.
Well, yeah. I want players to get their fair market value, not some kind of welfare. A 2-star recruit playing for Eastern Vermont Technical college doesn't have the same market value as a 5 Star recruit going to FSU.

I wouldn't mind seeing the small colleges remain how they are and only the power conferences that make the big bucks pay a premium for the top athletes.
 
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