Questions regarding Cowboys QB Tony Romo's back gone; they're now about his head

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Yeah…. I'd actually rather see us completely implode than eek out another 7-9 or 8-8 season. This coaching staff is simply incompetent. With the exception of Rod Marinelli-- I'd like to see them all go.

But-- we're married to Romo unfortunately. He is what he is at this point-- an aging gunslinger, that is a step too slow now, and that feels the phantom pressure that he has to carry this team on his shoulders despite the fact that he can actually trust his running game now.

This has all the makings of a complete breakdown.
Agreed on all points.

I predicted 6-10, but if he has a really down year, it could be worse. I said it in another thread, but it may be best in the long run for both Romo and the team to have awful seasons. It's probably the only way the front office will even entertain rebuilding like they need to.

The problem is, rebuilding won't amount to much if they put the wrong guy in charge of it.
 

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It still won't matter because we're not going to draft a new QB anyway.
 

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The sad thing is I thought our line played really well in this game. I know that Romo was sacked 3 times but most of the time Romo had plenty of time to throw if not all day. Our running game was killing them. Romo showed zero ability to get the ball off quickly when the rush did come which is why he took 3 sacks (Even on those plays there was only one guy really bringing the pressure and Romo had lanes to step up and avoid it but didn't). The offense is set up really nicely for a talented young QB if we can get one.
 

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The sad thing is I thought our line played really well in this game. I know that Romo was sacked 3 times but most of the time Romo had plenty of time to throw if not all day. Our running game was killing them. Romo showed zero ability to get the ball off quickly when the rush did come which is why he took 3 sacks (Even on those plays there was only one guy really bringing the pressure and Romo had lanes to step up and avoid it but didn't). The offense is set up really nicely for a talented young QB if we can get one.
And when he did have pressure and deftly moved left to avoid it, he promptly sailed the ball 4 feet over a wide open Beasley's head.

That's the one area where he is known for producing. As I said, he was gawd awful yesterday.
 

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So damned selfish of him. Jeezuz, just trust your fucking teammates, dumbass...
True, but for most of his career, his GM fucked him over in terms of an OL with professional level run blocking capabilities.

He needs to be smart enough to adjust, but I know why he thinks the way he does. It's a learned habit at this point.
 

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Declining arm strength doesn't explain his repeatedly not seeing wide open receivers. That pick to Eric Reid should have been a TD strike to Williams. His following Witten across the endzone to eventually end in a pick should have been a quick TD to Harris. His third pick he greatly underestimated the safety's closing speed.

All three tell me he's not processing information fast enough, and that's mental not physical. He squandered great pass protection yesterday.

And Romo has become stupid when it comes to checking out of run plays. The coaches need to have some plays where they tell him if he checks to a pass he will be benched.
That's what I thought as well.

He's a step slow. Or worse, multiple steps slow.

The coach didn't get him the reps he needed to be a starter yesterday. That's why I don't buy this bullshit you sometimes hear about "if you got it, you got it."

No. You need to be able to practice. At game level intensity.

No wonder the competition level of the NFL sucks now.
 

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True, but for most of his career, his GM fucked him over in terms of an OL with professional level run blocking capabilities.

He needs to be smart enough to adjust, but I know why he thinks the way he does. It's a learned habit at this point.
Or, he just needs to understand that each year is different and hey, it is okay to trust your teammates.

This "lack of trust" horseshit is the same garbage that you have used to excuse Garrett's ineptitude.

When even fans can see we can run the ball, and they refuse, that is not "learned habit", that is preference. Their preference.
 

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Yeah…. I'd actually rather see us completely implode than eek out another 7-9 or 8-8 season. This coaching staff is simply incompetent. With the exception of Rod Marinelli-- I'd like to see them all go.

But-- we're married to Romo unfortunately. He is what he is at this point-- an aging gunslinger, that is a step too slow now, and that feels the phantom pressure that he has to carry this team on his shoulders despite the fact that he can actually trust his running game now.

This has all the makings of a complete breakdown.
I have zero interest in Marinelli. I don't think he's the panacea he's been made out to be.
 

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I have zero interest in Marinelli. I don't think he's the panacea he's been made out to be.
You have zero trust in Marinelli, who has won before, yet have complete trust in Garrett who has done jack shit before being perpetually mediocre.

Makes sense.
 

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Or, he just needs to understand that each year is different and hey, it is okay to trust your teammates.

This "lack of trust" horseshit is the same garbage that you have used to excuse Garrett's ineptitude.

When even fans can see we can run the ball, and they refuse, that is not "learned habit", that is preference. Their preference.
It's not an excuse, but you have to understand that Jerry created this monster as well, via personnel decisions.

If Romo can't fix it, he'll need to be replaced, but if you were to give his successor a piece of shit OL for 6 years or so, you'd be a retard to expect that successor to develop differently.
 

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It's not an excuse, but you have to understand that Jerry created this monster as well, via personnel decisions.

If Romo can't fix it, he'll need to be replaced, but if you were to give his successor a piece of shit OL for 6 years or so, you'd be a retard to expect that successor to develop differently.
Yep, Jerry did, but only in the manner in which he gave Romo mandate.

Garrett is a pass happy fucking fool and he has been the bigger influence on Romo's career.

Sorry, not going to blame Jerry for what they are and what they do. He's not calling in plays to the sideline.

I get how your deal is to try to excuse every Garrett foible on Jones, but it is just not true.

Jones is a huge issue. But Garrett could succeed more despite him if he were half as smart as you give him credit for.
 

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You have zero trust in Marinelli, who has won before, yet have complete trust in Garrett who has done jack shit before being perpetually mediocre.

Makes sense.
I kinda want to go back to the 3-4 honestly.

This Tampa 2 seems like a disaster to me. I don't think it's a fit for our personnel, and I don't think it's a superior scheme in today's environment.
 

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Yep, Jerry did, but only in the manner in which he gave Romo mandate.

Garrett is a pass happy fucking fool and he has been the bigger influence on Romo's career.

Sorry, not going to blame Jerry for what they are and what they do. He's not calling in plays to the sideline.

I get how your deal is to try to excuse every Garrett foible on Jones, but it is just not true.

Jones is a huge issue. But Garrett could succeed more despite him if he were half as smart as you give him credit for.
Independent of how Garrett has influenced Romo's career, no quarterback would be able to develop a trust in a running game at the flip of a switch after a half decade of incompetence.

I'm sorry you wrongfully feel that any additional explanations for our struggles somehow absolve Garrett, but you can't ignore the line's gigantic effect on the psyche of the QB and the former playcaller the last few years.

Garrett's culpable as well but the personnel has shares a large percentage of it. I suspect now that the personnel has changed we'll begin to see the mentality change, but again, for Romo, I doubt it's easy for him to just flip a switch.
 

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It's not an excuse, but you have to understand that Jerry created this monster as well, via personnel decisions.

If Romo can't fix it, he'll need to be replaced, but if you were to give his successor a piece of shit OL for 6 years or so, you'd be a retard to expect that successor to develop differently.
I would expect his successor to already be developed.
 

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I kinda want to go back to the 3-4 honestly.

This Tampa 2 seems like a disaster to me. I don't think it's a fit for our personnel, and I don't think it's a superior scheme in today's environment.
Really doesn't matter, we could run either and be fine since the defense has to be rebuilt basically from scratch. The only guy who we have anything really invested in is Lawrence and he can play either scheme.
 

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Really doesn't matter, we could run either and be fine since the defense has to be rebuilt basically from scratch. The only guy who we have anything really invested in is Lawrence and he can play either scheme.
Yup, we've got no strong building blocks on defense and a banged up old quarterback. It'll get worse before it gets better.
 

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Really doesn't matter, we could run either and be fine since the defense has to be rebuilt basically from scratch. The only guy who we have anything really invested in is Lawrence and he can play either scheme.
I prefer the 4-3. We just need the talent and a scheme more in line with the Seahawks and less in line with Tampa Bay 15 years ago. I just think the 3-4 in general is slower and I don't like that as much in the passing league of the NFL today.
 

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I prefer the 4-3. We just need the talent and a scheme more in line with the Seahawks and less in line with Tampa Bay 15 years ago. I just think the 3-4 in general is slower and I don't like that as much in the passing league of the NFL today.
I don't care what scheme we use as long as we actually hire a coach who knows what the fuck he's doing, and dedicate the proper resources to implement the scheme correctly. But seeing how we keep rejecting both of those notions, it really doesn't matter.
 
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